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From: zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>
To: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>,
	Reily Siegel <mail@reilysiegel.com>
Cc: 50231@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#50231] [PATCH] gnu: emacs-desktop-environment: Include runtime dependencies
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2021 11:33:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <865yvbe7ir.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a6ko9m68.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr>

Hi,

On Tue, 07 Sep 2021 at 22:15, Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> wrote:

>> The emacs package can be configured to use other tools. However, unless
>> the package is specifically configured otherwise, it will not work when
>> installed. Without either these propagated inputs or special
>> configuration, this package cannot perform any of its functions. 

Indeed.  However, “guix install emacs-foo” does not install the package
’emacs’, i.e., ’emacs-foo’ cannot perform any of its functions. ;-)

> I know, but this Emacs library is not supposed to provide the features
> itself. I assume you use it on top of installed executables, as
> explained in the package description:
>
>   The package depends on the availability of shell commands to do the
>   hard work for us.
>
> Pulling all of them from an Emacs package sounds backward.

On the other side, I remember discussions about ’git’ as inputs in
’emacs-magit’.  Or ’the-silver-searcher’ for ’emacs-ag’.  Maybe it is
worth to improve section about Emacs packages in the manual.  Rough
draft:

«The external tools required by the package are not included as inputs,
except if they are required at compile or test time.»

Well, I am sure someone will find a better wording. ;-)



> Maybe Guix is missing a "suggested depedencies" flag, somehow.

Yeah, maybe.

One way should to add a ’properties’ as ’suggest’.  Well, from my
experience with Debian, I am not convinced that this suggest field
really helps.  Maybe for discovery.

The easiest way is to provide a sentence in the ’description’ field
about such.

Cheers,
simon





  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-08  9:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-27 18:36 [bug#50231] [PATCH] gnu: emacs-desktop-environment: Include runtime dependencies Reily Siegel
2021-09-06  9:17 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-09-07 19:19   ` Reily Siegel
2021-09-07 20:15     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-09-08  9:33       ` zimoun [this message]
2021-09-24 11:56       ` Ludovic Courtès

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