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From: Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@gmail.com>
To: Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name>
Cc: 52109@debbugs.gnu.org,
	Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>,
	zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>,
	Giovanni Biscuolo <g@xelera.eu>, kiasoc5 <kiasoc5@disroot.org>,
	Foo Chuan Wei <chuanwei.foo@hotmail.com>
Subject: [bug#52109] [PATCH] gnu: Add unrar-free.
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2023 06:19:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <84b1430354267a6db5c76c1470ab7e932924e2c3.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y8CSohf7OZt/Yzs8@jasmine.lan>

Am Donnerstag, dem 12.01.2023 um 18:07 -0500 schrieb Leo Famulari:
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 09:29:09PM +0100, Liliana Marie Prikler
> wrote:
> > Now, I hope I'm not exaggerating when I say that most computer
> > users use libarchive-based (un)archiving tools already. [3]
> > Having observed this, I see little meaning in having a frontend,
> > which per its name promises to open archives that their existing
> > tooling can't handle, only to then reveal that it was the existing
> > tooling all along.  If it didn't have the name that suggested it
> > was able to do that, no one would expect it to, and upon
> > encountering an archive that libarchive can't handle, they could go
> > "well, fuck those rar guys, I have better things to do", or they
> > could try and figure out what's wrong and contribute a fix (not
> > that a fix is easily contributed given the nature of this bug, but
> > somewhere along their journey they'd notice that rar is proprietary
> > garbage and not fault libarchive too hard for not handling it). 
> > Because unrar-free does have a name that suggests it's able to
> > unrar those things, however, they will inevitably feel wronged no
> > matter what and rather think "well, fuck unrar-free, I want
> > unrar-nonfree".
> 
> In order to understand your points better, I'd like to summarize them
> in my own words. Please tell me if I get it wrong.
> 
> Your objections to the inclusion of this package are that:
> 
> 1) We already have a package with equivalent functionality
> 2) The name of this package, unrar-free, might lead users to choose a
> nonfree program due to similarity. Concretely, the nonfree program is
> called "unrar".
> 
> Is that correct?
For the equivalence relation of "both being able to open the same
archives", yes.  Obviously, unrar-free has a different CLI – that's is
whole shtick, after all – but I'd argue that this doesn't matter,
because the people who prefer CLI over GUI know how to read manpages.

Cheers




  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-13  5:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-25 15:19 [bug#52109] [PATCH] gnu: Add unrar-free Foo Chuan Wei
2021-11-25 19:49 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-01-04  0:57   ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-01-04  5:32     ` kiasoc5 via Guix-patches via
2023-01-04 19:41       ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-01-04 20:21         ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-01-06 17:46           ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-01-10 16:47             ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-01-11 22:31               ` zimoun
2023-01-12  6:22                 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-01-12  7:36                   ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2023-01-12 20:29                     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-01-12 21:54                       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-01-12 23:07                       ` Leo Famulari
2023-01-13  5:19                         ` Liliana Marie Prikler [this message]
2023-01-13 15:20                       ` [bug#52109] How to resolve? (Re: [bug#52109] [PATCH] gnu: Add unrar-free.) Simon Tournier
2023-01-13 18:18                         ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-01-16  9:46                           ` Simon Tournier
2023-01-16 13:56                             ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-01-16 16:38                               ` Simon Tournier
2023-01-21 16:09                                 ` [bug#52109] Mention bsdcat, bsdcpio and bsdtar in description of libarchive zimoun
2023-01-21 17:59                                   ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-01-21 20:02                                     ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-01-22 15:09                                     ` zimoun
2023-01-22 17:44                                       ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-01-22 19:36                                         ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-01-23  7:45                                         ` zimoun
2023-01-23 19:29                                           ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-01-21 20:00                                   ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-01-22 14:56                                     ` zimoun
2023-01-22 19:27                                       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-01-12 12:54                   ` [bug#52109] [PATCH] gnu: Add unrar-free Leo Famulari
2023-01-12 20:49                     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-01-04 22:32         ` kiasoc5 via Guix-patches via
2023-01-13 18:29 ` bug#52109: " Leo Famulari

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