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[85.127.52.93]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ot21-20020a170906ccd500b0099df2ddfc37sm6972710ejb.165.2023.10.09.09.57.01 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 09 Oct 2023 09:57:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6f96ceb637ecb88eefbf851f7dbd1b82811b65d3.camel@gmail.com> From: Liliana Marie Prikler Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2023 18:57:01 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87pm1ot1ps.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87lechujbn.fsf@gmail.com> <480ea5ee0112c1a790da72af34405e0df6fcd2a0.camel@gmail.com> <20d7107dea14e1d879a08f562848cc0b5bf57a1d.camel@gmail.com> <87pm1ot1ps.fsf@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.46.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 2.81 X-Spam-Score: 2.81 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: AEF6957539 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx2.migadu.com X-TUID: rZjD1XCj/Qnx Am Montag, dem 09.10.2023 um 14:33 +0200 schrieb Simon Tournier: > Hi Liliana, >=20 > On Fri, 06 Oct 2023 at 11:55, Liliana Marie Prikler > wrote: >=20 > > > Well, %something is usually for "global" parameters.=C2=A0 At least, > > > that the convention with Guix.=C2=A0 Therefore, I would suggest to no= t > > > use it in order to avoid confusion. > >=20 > > As far as I understand %something means "implementation detail" and > > *something* means global, important something, but I might be > > mistaken about that. >=20 > For your information, what the Cookbook says about %something: >=20 > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 The percentage % is typically = used for read-only global > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 variables in the build stage. = Note that it is merely a > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 convention, like _ in C. Schem= e treats % exactly the same as > any > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 other letter. >=20 > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 > https://guix.gnu.org/cookbook/en/guix-cookbook.html#A-Scheme-Crash-Course >=20 > I think your change using =E2=80=99%version=E2=80=99 in some let-binding = is not > consistent with the rest. I don't think my usage of the percent style changes the meaning of "typically". Our implementation details are typically, but not exclusively, global variables in the build stage. > My aim with this message is only to communicate on some practises. > Maybe something should be raised on guix-devel.=C2=A0 Well, if you and I, > both spending some time working on Guix do not have the same > understanding for %something, then it means something is poorly > documented somewhere. :-) >=20 > WDYT about adding a paragraph about %something under, >=20 > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/en/guix.html#Coding-= Style >=20 > ? I'll consider it, but perhaps explaining this within the same cookbook entry might be a better idea. Regardless of the outcome in Guix Devel, I don't think that constraining variable names *too* hard is helpful, though. Cheers