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boundary="sUgeZfd71fKqMQPK4gFGwK4RWqLmw5XUv"; protected-headers="v1" From: Raghav Gururajan To: Leo Famulari Cc: 40708@debbugs.gnu.org Message-ID: <4f1c21b4-b3f2-b8e0-a434-26a5c1b8d0de@disroot.org> Subject: Re: [bug#40708] gnu: font-gnu-unifont: Unify outputs for fonts. References: <20200419012441.62891acb.raghavgururajan@disroot.org> <20200423023022.GA10882@jasmine.lan> <20200422224409.22805bb0.raghavgururajan@disroot.org> <20200423160538.GA29046@jasmine.lan> In-Reply-To: <20200423160538.GA29046@jasmine.lan> --sUgeZfd71fKqMQPK4gFGwK4RWqLmw5XUv Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------9623318BA2BC897C8E912B24" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------9623318BA2BC897C8E912B24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Leo! Sorry for the delayed response. > Unifont provides TrueType, PCF, and PSF. It does not have OTF fonts. That's correct. I was suggesting a scenario of using more than one type. = :-) > Currently, if a user installs 'font-gnu-unifont' they get TrueType > fonts. >=20 > On the other hand, the PSF fonts can be used in the bootloader and the > Linux console, and they are only 68 kilobytes, rather than ~22 megabyte= s > if you combine all the font outputs. I don't see a compelling reason fo= r > that increase. OK. I think of two reasons: 1) If one installs this package with suggested patch, the user can use unifont for any purpose as they wish. It may be application (ttf), console/grub (psf) and/or display server (pcf). 2) The setup will be consistent with other font packages, where the package installs fonts with all the types it can provide. > If the problem is that packages with multiple outputs are confusing, we= > should try to improve the UI, and we shouldn't use multiple outputs if > there isn't a good reason. But this is a case where I think it makes > sense. Improving UI would be good too. Regarding multiple outputs, I think it is good enough to separate libs, bins and docs. In this packages, we already separated bin and fonts. I suggest that we shall not separate fonts further into it's subtypes. 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