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spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 9.53 X-Spam: Yes Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=lepiller.eu header.s=dkim header.b=d7AGMY0p; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=lepiller.eu (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 2F8833FF9F X-Spam-Score: 9.53 X-Migadu-Spam: Yes X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: IWzR2mzNguMx Le Tue, 21 Jun 2022 10:30:20 +0200, Alexey Abramov via Guix-patches via a =C3=A9crit : > Hi >=20 > I am glad that you find these patches helpful. I tried to apply your > finalized patches, but seems like java-openjfx-build-web-js-test.patch > is still missing.=20 >=20 > Regarding the patches themselves, I agree with Ludo. They are indeed > hard to maintain. The best approach here would be to pack gradle, so > we could build not only 8.u202 but later versions as well. And more! > It seems like it can be build with ant at > e09125febb2abd4d5eb70714ff68cdc76ee7dc45. >=20 > In the meantime what we can do is make a separate channel for openjfx. > I use openjfx for davmail only, which does provide 2fa for Microsoft > Exchange. I have been experiencing some font issues since the > beginning and would be happy to try the finalized build you made. > Thanks! >=20 Although I agree that maintainability of these packages is going to be hard, I don't think it's so different from, say, maven :) Using Gradle would be the best solution here, but unfortunately, it depends at least on Kotlin for which there is currently no known bootstrap path. I've ended up building a 0.10.something version in a channel, but the next version I tried to build failed for unknown reasons (I think the previous version miscompiles the last version I could build). Even so, building from these old versions would require a lot of intermediate versions before we reach a recent Kotlin and it'll get worse everytime. I haven't found an alternative implementation we could use either. I don't see Gradle coming to Guix soon unfortunately. Using a separate channel wouldn't change the maintainability issue, and it would make openjfx much less discoverable, so I don't think it's a good solution. We should simply add more documentation and make sure we explain what's going on. It's difficult to follow, issues will be hard to fix, but I think it's pretty similar to Maven, where each upgrade brings new issues that are difficult to trace back to a cause and fix.