From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id iH66ID4ywl79YAAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 18 May 2020 06:59:10 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id UI7DHD4ywl7GNQAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 18 May 2020 06:59:10 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 122D29404E1 for ; Mon, 18 May 2020 06:59:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:51896 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jaZjx-0007i0-1H for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 18 May 2020 02:59:09 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34692) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jaZjq-0007ei-7x for guix-patches@gnu.org; Mon, 18 May 2020 02:59:02 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:34114) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jaZjp-0007Fl-U0 for guix-patches@gnu.org; Mon, 18 May 2020 02:59:01 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jaZjp-0006sw-Nv for guix-patches@gnu.org; Mon, 18 May 2020 02:59:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#39655] [PATCH core-updates] doc: Add 'Scheme-only Bootstrap' node. Resent-From: Efraim Flashner Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 06:59:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 39655 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Jan Nieuwenhuizen Cc: Timothy Sample , Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= , Nicolas Goaziou , 39655@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 39655-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B39655.158978510626421 (code B ref 39655); Mon, 18 May 2020 06:59:01 +0000 Received: (at 39655) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2020 06:58:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45660 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jaZjF-0006s5-S6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 May 2020 02:58:26 -0400 Received: from flashner.co.il ([178.62.234.194]:34660) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jaZjE-0006rr-N2 for 39655@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 May 2020 02:58:25 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [188.120.128.132]) by flashner.co.il (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E848E400E5; Mon, 18 May 2020 06:58:18 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 09:57:45 +0300 From: Efraim Flashner Message-ID: <20200518065745.GD18220@E5400> References: <20200218124411.20400-1-janneke@gnu.org> <87eeuqmuwb.fsf@gnu.org> <87367yhgva.fsf@gnu.org> <87eerid8sp.fsf@gnu.org> <878shqtdyf.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87k119rewo.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1sNVjLsmu1MXqwQ/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87k119rewo.fsf@gnu.org> X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x41AAE7DCCA3D8351 X-PGP-Key: https://flashner.co.il/~efraim/efraim_flashner.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-patches" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.69 X-TUID: NCb6kyf0xUm7 --1sNVjLsmu1MXqwQ/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 07:27:35AM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > Nicolas Goaziou writes: >=20 > Hello Nicolas, >=20 > >> Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes: > > > > I have some Texinfo syntax nitpicks, if you do not mind. >=20 > Nitpicks are great. >=20 > >> +re-create them if needed (see @pxref{Preparing to Use the Bootstrap > >> +Binaries}). > > > > Please remove the "see", included in @pxref. >=20 > Right. >=20 > >> +Building the GNU System from source is currently only possibly by add= ing > >> +some historical GNU packages as intermediate steps@footnote{Packages > >> +such as @code{gcc-2.95.3}, @code{binutils-2.14}, @code{glibc-2.2.5}, > >> +@code{gzip-1.2.4}, @code{tar-1.22}, and some others for details see > > > > Suggestion: "and some others. For details, see ..." >=20 > Better. >=20 > >> +@file{gnu/packages/commencement.scm}}. As Gash and Gash Utils mature, > > > > Missing full stop at the end of the footnote. >=20 > Added. >=20 > >> +and GNU packages become more bootstrappable again (e.g., new releases= of > >> +GNU Sed will also ship in @code{tar.gz} format), this set of added > >> +packages can hopefully be reduced again. > > > > @code{tar.gz} seems odd there. > > > > Suggestion: @file{.tar.gz} if this is about the suggestion, or > > ``tar.gz'', or "as compressed tar files". > > > > If none is satisfying, @samp{tar.gz} is still better than @code{tar.gz}, > > IMO. >=20 > Ah, and now I see that it's too cryptic/terse too. How about >=20 > and GNU packages become more bootstrappable again (e.g., new releases of > GNU Sed will also ship as gzipped tarballs again, as alternative to the > non-bootstrappable @code{xz}-compression), this set of added packages > can hopefully be reduced again. I have to ask since we're talking about bootstrapability; is it actually not bootstrappable or is it just harder/more complex? (The question is more about the wording than about the logistics of it.) >=20 > >> +If you are interested, join us on @code{#bootstrappable} on the > >> Freenode > > > > Arguably, I would use @samp, not @code. >=20 > Good. >=20 > >> +IRC network or discuss on @code{bug-mes@@gnu.org} or > > > > @code -> @email > > > >> +@code{gash-devel@@nongnu.org}. > > > > Ditto. >=20 > Sure, 2x. >=20 > Updated version attached. 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