From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56970) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fFwgL-0006Vw-Bq for guix-patches@gnu.org; Tue, 08 May 2018 03:05:06 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fFwgI-0005Ju-3k for guix-patches@gnu.org; Tue, 08 May 2018 03:05:05 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:45562) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fFwgI-0005Ji-0z for guix-patches@gnu.org; Tue, 08 May 2018 03:05:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fFwgH-0002Ys-Q2 for guix-patches@gnu.org; Tue, 08 May 2018 03:05:01 -0400 Subject: [bug#30991] [PATCH v2 3/3] services: Add ModemManager to '%desktop-services'. Resent-Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 09:04:07 +0200 From: Danny Milosavljevic Message-ID: <20180508090407.3bca7c9f@scratchpost.org> In-Reply-To: <874ljkmrcp.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20180329222140.21590-1-dannym@scratchpost.org> <20180329222140.21590-4-dannym@scratchpost.org> <878ta8kz24.fsf@gnu.org> <20180501115824.2955c218@scratchpost.org> <874ljkmrcp.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/UNK1nr+xJ7Nq1DX_qjMJo_v"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+kyle=kyleam.com@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-patches" To: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: 30991@debbugs.gnu.org --Sig_/UNK1nr+xJ7Nq1DX_qjMJo_v Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ludo, On Sun, 06 May 2018 23:00:54 +0200 ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) wrote: > >> I would not add it to =E2=80=98%desktop-services=E2=80=99 because I=E2= =80=99d think it=E2=80=99s not a > >> very common requirement, but I don=E2=80=99t know. WDYT? =20 > > > > Do we need internet in order to install GuixSD? > > > > Then modem-manager should at least be available in the installation ima= ge. =20 >=20 > I think this is orthogonal to the question of adding it to > =E2=80=98%desktop-services=E2=80=99 since the installation image doesn=E2= =80=99t rely on > =E2=80=98%desktop-services=E2=80=99. True. I agree. > Nevertheless, this will all be a matter of size, usability, and > documentation. If it adds =E2=80=9Ctoo much=E2=80=9D to the size of the = installation > image, I=E2=80=99d be rather against it. Well, some way of getting to the internet eventually needs to be available somewhere. (it's fine if it's only in the installed system, so I guess compilation of everything is fine). In Austria the cellphone internet is very cheap - so almost everyone has it (and many have only that). That said, USB or Wifi tethering is common, too. I'm just trying to reduce the number of things I have to charge on the road= :) GNU Linux distributions nowadays have trouble providing any kind of simple dialup installation - so it's more difficult to install GNU Linux here. I think that's ridiculous since the AT commands and PPP required to have some kind of internet didn't change sice circa 1985 - and it's small, too. (I didn't know ModemManager before I packaged it here - but it does some extra stuff like provide network card simulator integration for the extremely fast LTE modems) I still have not-so-fond memories of manually downloading a random wvdial binary and its dependencies in order to be able to install Gentoo. A normal person (TM) would just give up ;) --Sig_/UNK1nr+xJ7Nq1DX_qjMJo_v Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEds7GsXJ0tGXALbPZ5xo1VCwwuqUFAlrxS+cACgkQ5xo1VCww uqV73gf/bPPXAina7zUkA03LhZJiAvUzZrlbJW84FUWDbNe6qbkpKrfhNdfH66Pa gS5GZd88+UwMOD+1rqaj8sVOg8/LH4fGMQVvEp6hED+fx6sP34zF5KtLyRU9/ysh 34eAl8ZFmJN2zn4QJJgLJxR7pPqgb9MxevDt5E3CjFsHad1VlBC/8DmXa4w8cJkj YGLTRL8d/3z/hQ5tnLqNX5Ej1VYY6DU2pguQWLE8dpfvkOk160u8SYDJ68XDfPkr NpC+esiQAIFWodMQ5vLpTnF/gU+u9ywYyxXOpvY8cZHUw3wG46+S6s6Im/Xvx23c P6ALFOOCXRxpamRkeyix8+7Gq+eCSw== =BoxU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/UNK1nr+xJ7Nq1DX_qjMJo_v--