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From: Danny Milosavljevic <dannym@scratchpost.org>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: 27529@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#27529] [PATCH] bootloader: Use <menu-entry> for the bootloader side.
Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2017 20:26:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170702202656.60c2af09@scratchpost.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8737ae995g.fsf@gnu.org>

Hi Ludo,

On Sun, 02 Jul 2017 16:59:55 +0200
ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) wrote:

> Danny Milosavljevic <dannym@scratchpost.org> skribis:
> 
> > * gnu/bootloader.scm (menu-entry-device-mount-point): New variable.  Export it.
> > (<menu-entry>: New field "device".
> > * gnu/bootloader/grub.scm (grub-confgiuration-file): Handle <menu-entry>
> > entries.
> > * gnu/bootloader/extlinux.scm (extlinux-configuration-file): Handle
> > <menu-entry> entries.
> > * gnu/system.scm (menu->entry->boot-parameters): Delete variable.
> > (boot-parameters->menu-entry): New variable.  Export it.
> > (operating-system-bootcfg): Make OLD-ENTRIES a list of <menu-entry>.
> > * guix/script/system.scm (reinstall-bootloader):  Fix bootcfg usage.
> > ---
> >  gnu/bootloader.scm          |  3 +++
> >  gnu/bootloader/extlinux.scm | 19 +++++++++----------
> >  gnu/bootloader/grub.scm     | 27 ++++++++++++---------------
> >  gnu/system.scm              | 29 ++++++++++++++---------------
> >  guix/scripts/system.scm     | 10 +++++-----
> >  5 files changed, 43 insertions(+), 45 deletions(-)  
> 
> Could you explain the rationale?
> 
> IIRC there was the idea that implementations of the bootloader API
> should use <boot-parameters>, and that <menu-entry> would be used only
> in the user-facing APIs (it had even disappeared with the initial
> thing.)

Yeah, it's preparation for chainloading support (non-Linux OSes etc).  I don't feel strongly one way or another but I think those chainloading entries would actually be menu entries and not really boot-parameters as in Guix-can-use-them-for-anything.

What this does is use boot-parameters for stuff which Guix needs for itself, and menu entries (which could be a poem by Goethe as much as Guix cares) for the rest.  *Some* boot-parameters will end up as menu entries, but not all (for example think of chainloading: There would only be a menu-entry for chainloading, but both a boot-parameter and a (generated) menu-entry for the Guix Linux kernel).

There would be no way to get from a <menu-entry> to a <boot-parameter> because it could as well make no sense to do that.

In short, the bootloader would always and only get menu-entries, but the remainder of Guix would only use them as support under wobbly chairs or something :)

On the other hand, boot-parameters are things which Guix needs and manages.

If we want that (or want it again - it was that way before), this patch would be a way to do it.  If not, I'm fine with it as well.  It just bothered me a bit even when the (otherwise great) multi bootloader support went in that it used boot-parameters as some kind of menu-entry substitute.  In the beginning, <menu-entry> was grub-private, so that was the only way to get the multi bootloader support to work.  But now the <menu-entry> is public.  Then why not use it for what it is?

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-02 18:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-29 10:42 [bug#27529] [PATCH] bootloader: Use <menu-entry> for the bootloader side Danny Milosavljevic
2017-07-02 14:59 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-07-02 18:26   ` Danny Milosavljevic [this message]
2017-07-09 19:30     ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-07-10  7:30       ` Mathieu Othacehe
2017-07-26  8:43         ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-07-27 12:55           ` [bug#27529] Guix system tests Danny Milosavljevic
2017-07-27 14:57             ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-07-29 11:50               ` Danny Milosavljevic

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