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dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.71 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=philipmcgrath.com header.s=fm1 header.b="W tsQ/Ra"; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm1 header.b=wihvwUkv; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 591DD11A7E X-Spam-Score: -0.71 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: vT9WVV3MBu6k --nextPart2415285.jE0xQCEvom Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; protected-headers="v1" From: Philip McGrath Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2022 18:52:39 -0500 Message-ID: <111284438.nniJfEyVGO@bastet> MIME-Version: 1.0 On Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:54:55 AM EST Liliana Marie Prikler wrote: > Am Freitag, dem 18.11.2022 um 14:33 -0500 schrieb Philip McGrath: > > I could certainly imagine having a Chez team that doesn't necessarily > > care about Racket. Likewise, in both languages, I imagine there could > > be people interested in packages that use the language but who > > wouldn't necessarily be interested in the packaging of the compilers > > and run-time systems themselves. > > But, since no one else has signed on and I've made the majority of > > changes to both files in the last two years, designing a more fine- > > grained team structure seemed premature. > > I can see where you're coming from, but my personal opinion is that > merging these "two" teams now might discourage us from splitting them > later. In my humble opinion, adding a chez team with you as sole > member wouldn't hurt for the time being. > Is there a requirement that teams' scopes be disjoint? In other words, is there any reason "gnu/packages/chez.scm" shouldn't be in scope for both the racket team and a potential chez team? Another factor that might be relevant: Matthew Flatt tells me he is actively working with the Chez Scheme maintainers to merge the two branches. I'm not involved in these discussions myself: my understanding is that details are still being worked out, and I don't know what the time frame will be, but from what I'm told it's gone from "not in the foreseeable future" to "will happen". (There's no plan to synchronize the release cycles, and Racket will continue to rely on unstable Chez system functions and to have the Chez version form part of its ABI, so we will likely continue to have a chez-scheme-for-racket package, but it should be a much simpler transformation to use a particular pre-release version.) After the merge, we should be able to bootstrap upstream Chez Scheme via Racket as we currently do with chez-scheme-for-racket, at which changes to Racket will also potentially impact Chez Scheme. Personally, if there were more people involved, I'd organize it as teams for chez-and-racket-bootstrap, chez, and racket, as I'd initially tried to do in https://issues.guix.gnu.org/53878, but that especially seems like too much if they all consist of the same one person. If you still want a chez team, though, I guess I'm ok with that. I just hope this need not delay the update to 8.7 any further. -Philip --nextPart2415285.jE0xQCEvom Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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