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Fri, 1 Sep 2023 15:12:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2023 15:12:35 -0400 From: Imran Iqbal To: Giovanni Biscuolo Cc: =?utf-8?B?5a6L5paH5q2m?= , Maxim Cournoyer , Katherine Cox-Buday , "(" , guix-devel@gnu.org Subject: Re: How can we decrease the cognitive overhead for contributors? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Scanner: mx2.migadu.com X-Spam-Score: -0.97 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: AE786449AF X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.97 X-TUID: ouMKjrSjHxkA On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 01:42:15PM +0200, Giovanni Biscuolo wrote: > Hi, > > interesting thread: thank you very much to all for the comments and > tips! Seconded, this has been a great thread to read through. > For email based patch workflow one and two things are indispensable: a > mailbox and a MUA capable of piping a message to a command (git am); > this is the one and only obstacle for contrubutors who are accustomed to > less than functional MUAs. I think this is the biggest hurdle. A lot of folks are using gmail and its web based UI and it is just plain awful. I have made the switch to using neomutt (and isync + notmuch + mstmp) and it has made emails a joy to use and work with. > On the "cognitive overhead" for users like me who are able to (very) > seldom send some patch to projects, I find it much more straightforward > to just send a "git format-patch" generated file via email than to open > a web browser, log-in (or worst: register), fork... naah! This also has the nice side effect of not having to worry about if you should force push or not to maintain a clean commits the web ui, and in general I find the email flow to promote better commit hygiene. > On the general topic of "email vs. web (fork and PR) patch management" I > found this articles useful and interesting: One thing I would to this is Linus's rant on the github style workflow, as seen in a hard to follow list style UI: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/pull/17