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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 7.50 X-Spam-Score: 7.50 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: C251E1AF29 X-TUID: XYrSXUPYJCQl > The problem is that language developers live in > their own silo, create a self-hosted compiler with binary blob, and > leave it to the distros to figure it out. which is baffling to me, because i think bootstrapping is one of the more i= nteresting parts of compiler development. i had the same experience with the Idris2: i made a full bootstrap chain al= l the way down from GHC, integrated bootstrapping into the normal build pro= cess so that bootstrapping remains constantly tested, and also prepared the= Guix side... but then my PR was basically ignored. --=20 =E2=80=A2 attila lendvai =E2=80=A2 PGP: 963F 5D5F 45C7 DFCD 0A39 -- =E2=80=9CTo every man is given the key to the gates of heaven; the same key= opens the gates of hell. 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