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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 492044A839 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx1.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.11 X-Spam-Score: -2.11 X-TUID: XKAg15g+roVp > > > I personally think that it would be wiser to improve the documentatio= n > > > relating to the mailing lists and IRC logs, rather than fragmenting t= he > > > places that someone should look for answers. Maybe a new / additional > > > frontend that is more approachable for new users would also be good. >=20 >=20 > Imo, fragmentation is abound in Guix. >=20 > The official docs, while very good, is missing things that often need to > be answered by reading the source/commit log. Some examples: the manual also, reading the entire manual has an large cost, when e.g. i'm trying out= a new distro and i have a limited time and tolerance for frustration. i'll= be firing up websearches, skim past discussions, and then as a last resort= peek into the code... but i will not read the manual from front to back in= that phase. i'm not sure how representative a sample i am, though. > If it's not in the manual, I (and probably many others) turn to my > search engine. But there's a relative lack of blogs covering usage of ...or straight out start with the search engine, and only after that try to= browse the relevant part of the manual. > Guix, probably because most people have difficulty using Guix on nonfree > hardware. And the unofficial forums for Guix on Reddit/Lemmy, where yeah, the idealist in me is fully behind the free software fundamentalist s= tance to not even mention That Other Channel, but the realist in me also se= es that it potentially turns away hordes of new users who run out of frustr= ation-tolerance before they could even install the distro and begin playing= with it... > Compare this to Nix. It's likely more popular because users have access > to the most number of updated packages on their (likely nonfree) > computers and OSes (as Nix works on Mac). These users then write blog > posts and engage with their community to espouse how amazing their Nix > experience is, which in turn serves as informal documentation. More > users =3D more contributors =3D more blog posts and engagement =3D more u= sers > =3D positive feedback loop. FWIW, i came to Guix from Nix, and the difference for me in user and contri= butor experience was enormous. from a technical perspective, i find Guix su= perior enough to compensate for it, though. --=20 =E2=80=A2 attila lendvai =E2=80=A2 PGP: 963F 5D5F 45C7 DFCD 0A39 -- Doubt kills more dreams than failure ever will.