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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 697745AFF3 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx1.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.20 X-Spam-Score: -4.20 X-TUID: pQfQEl3Nmp91 Hi, > I think this is the biggest hurdle. A lot of folks are using gmail and > its web based UI and it is just plain awful. I have made the switch to > using neomutt (and isync + notmuch + mstmp) and it has made emails a joy > to use and work with. I use protonmail and they don't provide smtp access so I can't do git send-mail as easy as other people do. Protonmail has a bridge that deals with that but we don't have it packaged because it's written in Go and it has TOO MANY dependencies. This is not Guix's fault, but it's a problem Guix doesn't help fix either. The only thing I can do with this is just copy-paste the result of git format-patch and hope it's not a trouble for committers. This doesn't mean I'm against the email based approach, in fact, I really like it. The main problem I see is many people inside guix are not=20 sensible to people's problems and tastes. Some people are forced to use tools for several reasons, too. This is what I mean when I say many times emacs is kind of mandatory, and this thread is kind of a demonstration of what I meant because the main discussion evolved to: you can use this or that in emacs to ease the dev experience. I don't think software we use is the main problem, but the fact that we are not always sensible with other people's experience. Cheers, Ekaitz