From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Dmitry Alexandrov <321942@gmail.com> Subject: Re: (Really) Free Software future in the light of systemd Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2019 02:00:39 +0300 Message-ID: References: <20191010070606.GW27628@protected.rcdrun.com> <8561e1505c3d90c4deb8bdbfb1a20dced6e96066.camel@gnu.org> <3fe3d102-194d-8872-61ef-45337357ca4a@vapaa.xyz> <22d4a960b7ee45c48dcff0ca7afa7d93cf2b81d0.camel@gmail.com> <87tv8bxdbc.fsf@mail.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60332) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <321942@gmail.com>) id 1iLxiN-0000N9-6c for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2019 19:00:52 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <321942@gmail.com>) id 1iLxiM-00065G-2z for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2019 19:00:51 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87tv8bxdbc.fsf@mail.de> (Stefan Huchler's message of "Mon, 14 Oct 2019 22:49:27 +0200") List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Stefan Huchler Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, gnu-system-discuss@gnu.org --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefan Huchler wrote: > If I write a program and it's elisp there is only as far as I know one in= terpreter and all libs I use are also not replacable without rewriting code. Even if put aside that we have at least two elisp interpreters alive: there= is also GNU Guile; GNU Emacs is actually quite bad example to illustrate t= he systemd lock-in problem. For many years it had had a divergent fork =E2= =80=94 XEmacs, and many non-core parts of GNU Emacs, like Gnus, still conta= in code that tries to be portable between them. > So is all my programmes I ever wrote also not Free software because it's = not based on some very primitive Kernel Systemcalls (that have to be then n= ot even linux specific right? While Linux=C2=AE is indeed might be a very relevant example. It=E2=80=99s= a way more widespread; has software more critical that DE, like Wayland, t= hat targets it exclusively; and since the advent of LLVM is basically the o= nly effectively irreplaceable part of GNU left. I wish open software (that how the standard-based software is properly call= ed) advocates, which are now focused on systemd, would better turn their at= tention to Linux=C2=AE. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEE1yoTx9fONarixgNIydoJ3hnBsjAFAl2rlZcACgkQydoJ3hnB sjCjTQgAk1jf1xluT5kUsSO04lHChndOlNza8FHSs95HTCllztywgE9znstbE+07 jECt6Nh6mNBOnfIQOssR1vLfENoRVPF7s2fpEqzJwTY1asQzeZ3E/gPqbQnb4+kN 7bCsdI5QQJKOZmkaarQR2jqESzYrAJGMSbiVCDj+1WsamRUecVO24lo0oz19Et2A ogNHJnqsHMdWDAbGlJAyHMTyWDo+lheJCwI39sCS7mFstcs7B1mI0s1m3zed9257 +inCuECvSskin2mWLnVOod9RoNWVv1R5HX8ttXixYeA6AQiPwjL21x9EIs+oabb2 o1E1Vcmw2KFlvhJZdmWieOb6mHJXag== =K7jl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--