From: Dmitry Alexandrov <321942@gmail.com>
To: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, gnu-system-discuss@gnu.org,
Alexander Vdolainen <alex@vapaa.xyz>,
help-guix@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Proposal to remove the off-topic, not free software related thoughtcrime accusations from the Guix project pages on GNU.ORG websitew
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 14:39:42 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <lfts25j5.321942@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191010023714.GK20430@protected.rcdrun.com> (Jean Louis's message of "Thu, 10 Oct 2019 04:37:14 +0200")
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Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:
> * Alexander Vdolainen <alex@vapaa.xyz> [2019-10-09 23:13]:
> - and then within that group there is now a hostile takeover group of people starting with Ludovic Courtès and his "fellows" where none of them could answer my email to provide me with the facts about their statement. They are behaving against established implicit and explicit GNU guidelines, and so far nobody from FSF is enforcing any policy against them. They are danger to GNU project.
>
> My solution would be radical and simple: ask them to refrain damaging GNU project, or fork their software, and expell them from GNU project.
>
> AS SIMPLE AS THAT.
Wow! Ease off a bit!
You might not noticed that, but today Guix is the most vivid part of GNU. And I could not image an action, that might cause more damage to GNU project, than urging Guix lead developers to leave. Even if you believe that forking software over political discord is good thing to do (despite it does not align well with the rest of your message), by all means, you would not able to outcompete them, so it would simply ended in Guix out of GNU. So it even more harmful than urging RMS to leave. After all, RMS is mortal and, alas, will leave us and GNU sooner or later, while Guix is not necessary.
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2019-10-10 2:37 ` Proposal to remove the off-topic, not free software related thoughtcrime accusations from the Guix project pages on GNU.ORG websitew Jean Louis
2019-10-10 11:39 ` Dmitry Alexandrov [this message]
2019-10-10 12:14 ` Jean Louis
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2019-10-10 12:39 ` Dmitry Alexandrov
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2019-10-10 17:48 ` Jean Louis
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2019-10-10 20:29 ` Dmitry Alexandrov
2019-10-10 21:02 ` Jean Louis
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2019-10-12 9:19 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-13 13:05 ` Kete via Discussions about the development of the GNU system
2019-10-13 23:43 ` Alexandre François Garreau
2019-10-14 6:53 ` František Kučera
2019-10-14 7:46 ` Reminder to keep posts on topic Ricardo Wurmus
2019-10-14 15:17 ` Mikhail Kryshen
2019-10-14 16:14 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-10-10 16:18 ` Proposal to remove the off-topic, not free software related thoughtcrime accusations from the Guix project pages on GNU.ORG websitew Stefan Huchler
2019-10-10 16:44 ` ng0
2019-10-10 22:23 ` Reminder to remain civil Ricardo Wurmus
2019-10-11 15:14 ` Proposal to remove the off-topic, not free software related thoughtcrime accusations from the Guix project pages on GNU.ORG websitew Ruben Safir
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2019-10-14 10:07 ` (Really) Free Software future Was: Re: Proposal to remove the off-topic, Svante Signell
2019-10-14 15:26 ` Jesse Gibbons
2019-10-14 16:13 ` Paul Smith
2019-10-14 16:52 ` (Really) Free Software future Svante Signell
2019-10-14 18:16 ` Paul Smith
2019-10-14 18:32 ` Alexander Vdolainen
2019-10-14 18:59 ` Jesse Gibbons
2019-10-14 19:18 ` Alexander Vdolainen
2019-10-14 19:35 ` marinus.savoritias
2019-10-14 20:49 ` Stefan Huchler
2019-10-19 23:00 ` (Really) Free Software future in the light of systemd Dmitry Alexandrov
2019-10-21 17:58 ` Jean Louis
2019-12-15 3:23 ` Richard Stallman
2019-10-14 19:11 ` (Really) Free Software future Paul Smith
2019-10-14 19:22 ` Alexander Vdolainen
2019-10-14 19:11 ` marinus.savoritias
2019-10-15 2:41 ` Richard Stallman
2019-10-15 19:56 ` Svante Signell
2019-10-15 20:31 ` marinus.savoritias
2019-10-15 21:00 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2019-10-16 6:00 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-16 18:40 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2019-10-16 18:51 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-18 3:10 ` Richard Stallman
2019-10-14 18:42 ` Jesse Gibbons
2019-10-15 9:07 ` Ricardo Wurmus
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2019-10-12 11:37 ` Proposal to remove the off-topic, not free software related thoughtcrime accusations from the Guix project pages on GNU.ORG websitew Jean Louis
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