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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Scanner: mx10.migadu.com X-Spam-Score: -5.52 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 82ED422696 X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.52 X-TUID: gFfg3dPt09YH > Am Donnerstag, dem 01.02.2024 um 20:30 +0000 schrieb Attila Lendvai: >=20 > > for an average unix user a service is a process that is running in > > the backgroud, doing stuff mostly without any user interaction. you > > can try to argue this away, but i'm afraid that this is the state of > > things. >=20 > Which is exactly what etc-service-type does. It symlinks stuff to /etc > without user interaction. we can spend our life honing in on a satisfying definition, but let it be e= nough that what is commonly understood as a service has an active component= (see 'run' in my definition); i.e. it has a temporal dimension. but honestly? it felt silly to even provide a definition in my mail. we eit= her live in a different universe, or you're just focused on justify the sta= tus quo. whichever is the case, we have reached a dead end, because essenti= ally, this is aesthetics. but anyway, i gave my feedback, and as i don't have the authority to lobby = for renaming core guix abstractions, i'm out. --=20 =E2=80=A2 attila lendvai =E2=80=A2 PGP: 963F 5D5F 45C7 DFCD 0A39 -- =E2=80=9CUntil you figure out that [manipulation] is going on, we're all go= ing to be run like rats through a maze. Culture is an intelligence test, an= d when you pass that test you don't give a shit about culture.=E2=80=9D =09=E2=80=94 Terence McKenna (1946=E2=80=932000)