From: Ricardo Wurmus <ricardo.wurmus@mdc-berlin.de>
To: Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Guix on Debian (was: GSoC ideas)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 10:03:34 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <idjziuq32ft.fsf@bimsb-sys02.mdc-berlin.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160224000234.GA21278@jasmine>
Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> writes:
>> Are those bootstrapping binaries really necessary for getting Guix
>> going? I guess for some reason I thought if you did the whole
>> configure/make/etc dance it wouldn't be but maybe I'm wrong.
>
> My understanding is that if you alter the bootstrap binaries, the entire
> dependency graph will change, forcing a rebuild of everything. And of
> course, the altered binaries may present different interfaces, breaking
> things as well.
This is correct. Back then we ran into trouble with our Guix
installation at work when someone modified permission bits on the
bootstrap binaries, causing a rebuild of everything. It took us a while
to find out the cause and revert the change.
Some of the bootstrap binaries can be reproduced from source (if you
make sure to follow the Guix recipes), but others (like Guile IIRC)
don’t have reproducible build systems, so reproducing the exact same
binaries without using Guix is going to be very challenging.
I don’t know if it is possible and if it would make sense to cheat,
i.e. just lie to Guix about the hashes of the bootstrap binaries.
~~ Ricardo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-02-24 9:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-02-06 11:38 GSoC ideas Pjotr Prins
2016-02-06 12:36 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-02-06 18:54 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-02-07 10:16 ` Efraim Flashner
2016-02-09 20:52 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-25 20:32 ` myglc2
2016-02-08 10:45 ` Tomáš Čech
2016-02-08 11:37 ` Efraim Flashner
2016-02-08 17:24 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-02-08 18:45 ` Thompson, David
2016-02-08 19:47 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-02-08 20:43 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-02-09 10:36 ` Installing Guix on foreign distros Ludovic Courtès
2016-02-10 8:53 ` Tomáš Čech
2016-02-10 9:42 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-02-10 12:44 ` Jookia
2016-02-11 5:44 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-02-11 10:54 ` Bootstrapping Ludovic Courtès
2016-02-23 23:00 ` GSoC ideas Diane Trout
2016-02-23 23:52 ` Guix on Debian (was: GSoC ideas) Christopher Allan Webber
2016-02-24 0:02 ` Leo Famulari
2016-02-24 9:03 ` Ricardo Wurmus [this message]
2016-02-24 9:16 ` Efraim Flashner
2016-02-24 9:36 ` Jookia
2016-02-25 18:15 ` Bootstrap binaries Ludovic Courtès
2016-02-25 20:26 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-02-26 23:19 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-02-28 10:51 ` Jookia
2016-02-28 15:08 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-02-28 15:10 ` Jookia
2016-02-29 5:22 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-02-29 10:01 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-02-24 0:32 ` Guix on Debian (was: GSoC ideas) Diane Trout
2016-02-24 7:04 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-02-24 17:20 ` Thompson, David
2016-02-24 19:36 ` Diane Trout
2016-02-25 10:30 ` Efraim Flashner
2016-02-26 1:27 ` Diane Trout
2016-02-24 19:14 ` GSoC ideas Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2016-02-24 21:24 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2016-02-24 21:56 ` Diane Trout
2016-02-25 18:10 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-02-26 1:28 ` Diane Trout
2016-03-25 20:52 ` myglc2
2016-02-09 20:49 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-02-09 22:17 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-02-10 6:12 ` Pjotr Prins
2016-02-11 2:11 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-02-11 10:01 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-02-11 17:59 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-02-21 21:07 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-23 19:07 ` myglc2
2016-02-11 11:46 ` Manolis Ragkousis
2016-02-11 17:32 ` Andreas Enge
2016-02-12 11:48 ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2016-02-11 17:36 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-02-28 22:12 ` Samuel Thibault
2016-02-28 23:33 ` Richard Braun
2016-03-02 10:09 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-02 10:12 ` Samuel Thibault
2016-03-02 21:31 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-02 22:06 ` Samuel Thibault
2016-03-21 12:09 ` [GSoC] Porting GuixSD to GNU Hurd draft Manolis Ragkousis
2016-03-22 0:49 ` Samuel Thibault
2016-03-23 13:40 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-23 16:55 ` Justus Winter
2016-03-24 11:18 ` Manolis Ragkousis
2016-03-24 11:38 ` Justus Winter
2016-03-24 12:36 ` Manolis Ragkousis
2016-03-24 12:49 ` Justus Winter
2016-03-24 13:22 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-24 13:55 ` Manolis Ragkousis
2016-03-24 14:30 ` Justus Winter
2016-03-04 15:09 ` GSoC ideas Manolis Ragkousis
2016-03-05 22:02 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-02-06 23:53 ` Ben Woodcroft
2016-02-07 5:51 ` Pjotr Prins
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