From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Dmitry Alexandrov <321942@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Proposal to remove the off-topic, not free software related thoughtcrime accusations from the Guix project pages on GNU.ORG websitew Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 23:29:06 +0300 Message-ID: References: <20191009065352.GU8197@protected.rcdrun.com> <1c9dc59c-0594-6921-73e8-b173e558b5c3@vapaa.xyz> <20191010023714.GK20430@protected.rcdrun.com> <5zkw22sb.321942@gmail.com> <32731221-C09D-4E6B-8642-1600A5D56E64@gnu.support> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Return-path: In-Reply-To: <32731221-C09D-4E6B-8642-1600A5D56E64@gnu.support> (Jean Louis's message of "Thu, 10 Oct 2019 17:48:20 +0000") List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+gcggh-help-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" To: Jean Louis Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, gnu-system-discuss@gnu.org, help-guix@gnu.org List-Id: guix-devel.gnu.org --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jean Louis wrote: > How are you? Ehm... Fine. What is the occasion to ask? > On October 10, 2019 12:39:00 PM UTC, Dmitry Alexandrov <321942@gmail.com>= wrote: >>Did you move it offlist intentionally? If not, may I resend it back? > > Me for sure not intentionally and Guix managers are anyway conducting cen= sorship... So no big deal. I suppose, they are not in position to censor gnu-system-discuss@gnu.org. > You can resend what you wish. I am not forbidding two-way free speech. Done. >>>>Wow! Ease off a bit! > > No need. I am not feeling fear when I state something. So they did not ea= se with thru FUD and defamation on Guix pages on GNU.org domain, so why MD = or others should be silenced? No need. > >>>>You might not noticed that, but today Guix is the most vivid part of GN= U. And I could not image an action, that might cause more damage to GNU pr= oject, than urging Guix lead developers to leave. > > I [] see absolutely no problem there. I=E2=80=99m afraid, Dr. Stallman would see. > And free software can be freely used? So what is the loss? The loss is hidden behind the question, I suggested you to think on: =E2=80= =9CWhat the point of dubbing some free program an official GNU package nowa= days? Why such thing as GNU software still exists at all, when impulse it = gave 35 years ago was successful and free software is not rare anymore?=E2= =80=9D >>I do not see how it can be harmful for Guix. > > Their only loss is for them to lose other 100000 dollars donation, that i= s possible reason for their hostile take over attempt. > What is point in backstabbing of RMS? I asked and never got answers but F= UD. To get rid of him, of course. Why to ask for obvious answer? >>I do not see how it can be harmful for Guix. Not to say, that you are al= so urging to oust, at least, Guile and GnuPG. > > No, not at all. I am asking people to behave according to GNU kind commun= ication guidelines. Many of your letters contain a footer with a call for lead developers of Gu= ix, Guile and GnuPG to leave GNU. Even if your claim that Guix depends on = FSF financially is true, GPG is for sure self-sufficient. >>Of course, it up to them, and I hope they have enough respect for GNU and= RMS heritage not to follow you strong advice. > > They have no respect for RMS. I hope, that you have, though. And thus will stop to tear down the project= he founded. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEE1yoTx9fONarixgNIydoJ3hnBsjAFAl2flJIACgkQydoJ3hnB sjCBoggAwd8sAWUK+qTrF7GQpg74qPiSDiKA1m0KSCLSSfnouIN3FX/UF+funrev eG0vwsfdh80kULf3+EeOO6aSobA0BC8xdNVUpdyjWBgK3NWNuZacLJ9fXlxuWk83 LThGYPbp8f2t63BX2gh8lMtagQq0LZpLT6vxZXtKZPUMWS82ZsCN1QrZukz2XskP qZcbHiqcqJdKJfAy2CgsscRm/7OCBIStZL3HkY68kdh+Ul4s8ID0sw5tFLRvLdal OLhM1iPqufsxG6lSV22f+X84wgI3TNj7BntxsmZ5J7/JzRIF4Fg5ul15dCsw8KdW KT2/obM4rIkBwqHFJ6WY19Evi0wSXw== =q3dH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--