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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1614634583; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=Gf0XJs/fhClW6ADnKP8oA4/JBhN+4nmNm9brT03DFPs=; b=Lrfz+S/FXt2z+owye1WM16JvP/b7bi5aORIS+WFKwGPyZDdDh3R5Kk0Y7qzR20bKsplhJq Wy9RfEYSpAgz8RVrz7UhWK7xH6k2SqK1PHlA1vNWbqfUhX5iNCm8v8vVcUEpz2FxY8uX1W 9k7JNrCeiMRaZTcP9zQC4jKRRJmjgjPiF6YhI7gsGiPQ1X5gHZRDsHMFHr+dyYUUCumGAL gcht0j9Tpf3Pl8ki3cwFQVVD3HEsIH6hu/E3wv/krUflFzhv16fp/OmROdTaME9lvFwGiD h2z2UKX1beYRun5O1BAvxc86ocTcbsykG25xkvEcpGiwLtlXy1/10Kx3FUfA/g== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1614634583; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=cn+kpHfO2wEYMX3FknzDtDcK8baApL+fr2eeVIpkgOA/vQrmUzRD/FA4UkP7Uc1/Fvkv/z ptNF6f77qq8pMFJbq+Ha89h6oQl8Tqs6eyggJsJ608fT4XrB/W9ULKEXSrLmqC1Vh5H8rR 2d0k7J9PNWnwL9a8Cxc63QPzrRidtzHOCuhDaZQZ6L4S6OKHeMZ0vU3D2F3knhOz7f/3yF MDfec6kS/ig3RsvxHnpcHICN9ch9H3U6y+WXLaCn+l4+qbpmWVx8qhMOuCG4EweL9NYQMD SotejvzASDSuHTjvvjI5sKBE45FDEn2zH4k7jp69M6O0kt9KisykSjySMRFAGw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=dismail.de header.s=20190914 header.b=V3oFZ6MY; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=dismail.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.07 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=dismail.de header.s=20190914 header.b=V3oFZ6MY; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=dismail.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: C1B32E1B2 X-Spam-Score: -3.07 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: W1nyuP1SA+en March 1, 2021 2:14 PM, "Tobias Platen" wrote:= =0A=0A=0A> In my recent talk about the guix port to POWER9,=0A> I also me= ntioned the libre-soc project.=0A> Unlike POWER9 and maybe POWER8, libre-= soc and microwatt do not implement VSX.=0A> The libre-soc project instead= has SVP64, and also plans to extend the POWER ISA=0A> to support GPU lik= e instructions. Since I work mostly on the libre-soc I will have=0A> less= time to contribute to the GUIx project.=0A> =0A> The relevant bug report= to GUIX is=0A> https://bugs.libre-soc.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D602=0A=0AThi= s looks like an annoying bug. I'll copy the relevant bit from the bug re= port below:=0A=0A any OpenPOWER Compliant systems that choose not to i= mplement the Optional SIMD =0A as per the Linux Compliancy Subset in v= 3.0C such as Microwatt, A2O, A2I and LibreSOC =0A are accidentally and= unintentionally completely excluded from being able to run major=0A m= odern distros, and with ABI changes taking estimated 3 to 5 years to prop= agate, there =0A are very few options. =0A=0AYou won't be able to run = GNU/Linux on the libreSOC? That sounds annoying.=0A=0A> =0A> --=0A> Tobi= as Platen