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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1653322777; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=ZXzyWfLNuWFfT4rU/K+xub8l7RazOX3hpPs3YjfPizs=; b=h2v2LsK/prpqm9TVjMJlIT9hv76r90MLcwriuDwzcOfmn1jgVIAqrruP9zM92bmtlNLpv7 msfTuPpp77oQBaG1CRvr3deUydz0BjXIvMChCgr8MtYHuPu0vk+OC3l5G3vR1dsOdXO3sX hBThJrKY+0l0tjhH74So9RNxiAu9jYfWer92USJn4LuXi2Tfjh3nH4g1IpTG6drtgun/qQ gboIZdDKublHMu6WOU+b42vEcWm9Pwtc3L9w/2XjjkSL+w0fkLd4avT4ipIQeNH3Rybx0u PutmNuk1PBc3aIiebKsLlJlg9utnn8Lx63/RMFwVAFPgaHwEHslIBSBf27UQbw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1653322777; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=mtjMGZRW3Af5VgqorWgz4J/3sAQKks/seu3tum7svKXk930W1Oqi/GS4yc8KcnIvDnaZ83 V90hVn8U+IaI45ZgnASTcdy8V19DsdCIlESEUFhH4Abq0jeGMHwvbMXU6TVlqg5etiVKho VG904ozInxvm4IUFXuy7NnYiADvXbI2TpLCuxrilKVgEjYn1UuCvZ/ClVv6IIEnYuKThEu 1Ilyg7ybIiqWzzgKGu1c/iNkSqtz9aIt1KUaRZ2Pe8u5dbY8gkDUTuEIUWFwKQ31lVZ7TX Yf9uVRcLKwn5WcGb2brX6G+wEOMsPCNL49bALNgmDa8W4L1DHZhM4bQ0HWkEdw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=telenet.be header.s=r22 header.b=eQmMkrFf; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=telenet.be; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -7.65 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=telenet.be header.s=r22 header.b=eQmMkrFf; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=telenet.be; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 92CFB37B6D X-Spam-Score: -7.65 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: auQvTCuaAIUR --=-E43YA8Fa/8i3SRH4TkDR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ludovic Court=C3=A8s schreef op ma 18-04-2022 om 22:24 [+0200]: > [... guix refresh -u stuff failing due to not finding the key ...] > I=E2=80=99m not sure what a good solution is (other than looking for the = key > manually on Savannah or on some random key server). Alternatively, why use key servers at all? WDYT of something like (package (name "gnurl") [...] (properties ;; Keys that are considered =E2=80=98trustworthy=E2=80=99 for signing r= eleases ;; of gnurl. `((permitted-pgp-signing-keys "CABB A99E ..." "DEAD BEEF ...") ;; Locations of PGP key (possibly with some of them pointing to ;; the same key) (pgp-key-locations ,(savannah-pgp-key USER-ID) ... ; most signers are on savannah.gnu.= org ,(local-file "[...]/someone.pub") ; not easily available from the W= eb =20 "https://rando/key.pub" "ipfs://.../..." "gnunet://...")))) ; download key via P2P networks The first part (permitted-pgp-signing-keys) has been suggested previously a= nd seems mostly orthogonal, but the second part is new. It would reduce the dependency on central infrastructure. We could consider key servers to be =E2=80=98merely=E2=80=99 another fallback. 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