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We generally do not create modules according to the groups of > developers, but rather package declarations are grouped into > modules according to their function (e.g. "wm") or according to > some technical or factual realm they belong to (e.g. "haskell" > or "music"). There is no reason why software from the Suckless > group should not follow this rule. Actually, the software from the suckless group follows this rule in a sense, as we also have a module for freedesktop, gnome, kde, etc. > 2. There are hints indicating that the Suckless group sympathizes > to oppressive Nazi ideology. The Suckless group is a registered > association in Munich, Germany. This is a somewhat weak argument, as filenames only matter when editing – you'd still be linking to a Nazi group in the homepage, which matters much more. On the other hand, Guix users often complain about suckless-style software as it is in fact not the most Guix-friendly to handle. Simply renaming the file to "suckmore" would in my opinion be adequate, and switching to maintained forks of their stuff ethical. Regards, Liliana