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From: Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>
To: Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@gmail.com>,
	taylan.kammer@gmail.com
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [minor patch] Amend CoC
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2022 19:45:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f295cc4142448c83841cac8bcbc78795961fe93d.camel@telenet.be> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9cfec52325723f1fa99e5f4a99b982b7ab0fcd33.camel@gmail.com>

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Liliana Marie Prikler schreef op zo 20-02-2022 om 19:05 [+0100]:
> > Note: The upstream Contributor Covenant wouldn't want to include it
> > because the author seems to have a peculiar world-view where they
> > don't acknowledge that humans actually have a sex.  I hope the Guix
> > maintainers are more reasonable than that. :-)
> Sorry, but tracking down the issue you submitted towards the
> contributor covenant, it appears to me that you are the misguided
> one.
> The CoC already prohibits discrimination based on gender identity,
> sexual identity and sexual orientation.  If you identify your gender
> as
> your sex, whatever that might be, you are thereby already protected.
> 
> The wording you chose (intentionally or otherwise) tries to
> invalidate
> other people's gender identity and thus violates the CoC.

Ignoring upstream's context and whether Taylan Kammer is misguided or
not, listing sex among the list could be useful if a potential harasser
H who understands the difference between sex and gender and knows that
V has sex A not corresponding to gender B under current social
convention, and H would harass V over their sex (but H is fine with V's
gender).

To me, this seems a rather contrived scenario though ...

Greetings,
Maxime.

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-20 18:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-20 18:05 [minor patch] Amend CoC Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-02-20 18:45 ` Maxime Devos [this message]
2022-02-20 19:30   ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-02-20 20:56   ` Jonathan McHugh
2022-02-20 21:12     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-02-20 21:47     ` Jonathan McHugh
2022-02-20 19:43 ` Taylan Kammer
2022-02-20 21:37   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2022-02-20 22:01     ` Taylan Kammer
2022-02-21 16:18       ` Christine Lemmer-Webber
2022-02-21 16:01   ` Christine Lemmer-Webber
2022-02-22 17:16     ` Taylan Kammer
2022-02-23  9:48       ` Andy Wingo
2022-02-23 10:10         ` Oliver Propst
2022-02-20 19:47 ` Mark H Weaver
2022-02-20 21:02   ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-02-20 22:45     ` Taylan Kammer
2022-02-21  8:24       ` Tissevert
2022-02-21 21:03       ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-02-21 21:11         ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-02-23 11:38 Blake Shaw
2022-02-20 21:37 Blake Shaw
2022-02-20 13:02 Taylan Kammer
2022-02-20 13:10 ` Julien Lepiller
2022-02-20 13:16   ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2022-02-20 16:29     ` Taylan Kammer
2022-02-20 17:44       ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2022-02-20 16:19   ` Taylan Kammer

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