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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, Martin Becze Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1648807559; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=2a5X81b68u0v2e7fXbvp3QxEBwY1Ox76lp4WJYklvCE=; b=f+kRe1FUAmJu8iw7/Lwf7L+MVeIfCgwxT8hPDLD6GugQIhoXEOVcuuRklo4MWzw98rtHdg gLWsuef+SmB+X6pZp3WcShHlrQutp12qds5tbMht6np6LTJPbbZEiKiXueqNerFaratM8o 2nAFECNuPTYr5tm1LfPqGyNs9i5FaGx1ySrn1pcSv8xw42bRMDc1DMEI3GX62jk9q11yaV PxCxHLtdRGAhymR8C0GX3IBMMRYa+xwjKR193KwcFRD0j3wiMeQMXFOIY1kPJOzCXVpwvf Vq+qFQgfChTNNcrZJhDwUfJea98xGvVRQJekdw1qFJKsTDK1OzJVDSD+evLYBQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1648807559; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=TpDvTDF/lvg7T4rAWZzY28vEX7Hg8FCV/ae83fLr63CzWHn0Chu9p29J/9FnVqMnLZ/Wk+ cVmERr8eiuYqZXoc7rho8evVWBb1I7Rdae1t5XLtT1szwMUyP6UCglLIy2TfePbC2yFNuX L7NbdqPNt56UVru2NOV2r8kbEv+hW+m8ZeQOh637vR8fN1yLr6b05uFpO7XO/86cOLpFyw K7A1rjzfArPywKKpxqt+4gDk/ZdTL/PyuLFh28SjEcOk1Lx80o51W3S/HURFxddvO41CZA zyH4rO4IijOs/lTZAwnt0d64q/LxPdSDKF//DbxEt1mo6QOE5/DsxOGHj+g3Mg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=telenet.be header.s=r22 header.b=MgdK1wNl; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=telenet.be (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 3.63 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=telenet.be header.s=r22 header.b=MgdK1wNl; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=telenet.be (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 5A16317C3A X-Spam-Score: 3.63 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: /x+MsQmLFINg --=-1FqxJlhHduGK23/+Dppi Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ludovic Court=C3=A8s schreef op vr 01-04-2022 om 11:10 [+0200]: > Overall, I=E2=80=99m afraid Rust packaging is getting out of hands and we= =E2=80=99re all > looking elsewhere.=C2=A0 For example, that Rust packages live in their ow= n > separate world means there=E2=80=99s no tooling available, leading to poo= r QA, a > proliferation of versions of the same packages that never get removed, > and so on.=C2=A0 I think addressing that, for instance with something as = I > proposed in , should be high > priority. I think I'll look into the cycle issue, maybe cargo.toml can be modified to not use rust-cfg-il and maybe the solution, if any, could be used for other cycles. Greetings, Maxime. --=-1FqxJlhHduGK23/+Dppi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iI0EABYKADUWIQTB8z7iDFKP233XAR9J4+4iGRcl7gUCYkbOTBccbWF4aW1lZGV2 b3NAdGVsZW5ldC5iZQAKCRBJ4+4iGRcl7tDEAQDD2MuRgEXEn7p5eub/sFF2dAK2 NPGTBDQ5jdTHB03VEgD/ZC3OF1axRESvj5vVy//UFps7lua+WXE/hhMx6UHDLgE= =Hhbi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-1FqxJlhHduGK23/+Dppi--