From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:403:58f0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms13.migadu.com with LMTPS id eN5kNTn9nGbdtQAA62LTzQ:P1 (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2024 12:21:14 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:403:58f0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1.migadu.com with LMTPS id eN5kNTn9nGbdtQAA62LTzQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2024 14:21:13 +0200 X-Envelope-To: larch@yhetil.org Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; none Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB3EE3E603 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2024 14:21:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sVVYP-0008Er-EZ; Sun, 21 Jul 2024 08:20:41 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sVVYL-0008Dq-Sw for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jul 2024 08:20:37 -0400 Received: from libre.brussels ([2a01:4f8:201:1044::1]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sVVYI-0005DT-Iq for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jul 2024 08:20:36 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=libre.brussels; s=mail; t=1721564429; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=5AMTOBm3yE/QDfeRmmbqX4OUjZxPEivgkSWGY94HoHA=; b=Nu9xqk1pnS1xuCK70GN+tMtCJV0MsgbX2qtuqjndXQhiVGcxicDwOgUlPZHKZUVVMOPF9r fQcO1PZmjvfETj4pIOi5/8b3OSlGVicS+OqHF3++uuy71FY5XwuKeIsZSToFWnmN9yRIAa WREfctNodxGuvB0ZT8No9f+2z74eleI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2024 14:20:28 +0200 From: indieterminacy To: Juliana Sims Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Subject: Re: EU NGI funding cut engagement opportunity In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: X-Sender: indieterminacy@libre.brussels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f8:201:1044::1; envelope-from=indieterminacy@libre.brussels; helo=libre.brussels X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.00 X-Spam-Score: -4.00 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: CB3EE3E603 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx11.migadu.com X-TUID: rmUCta9MWoDP On 2024-07-21 01:15, Juliana Sims wrote: > Greetings comrades, > > As many of you are likely already aware, the European Union has > recently made plans to cut funding to its Next Generation Internet > (NGI) initiative which funds hundreds of FOSS projects, including many > related to Guix itself. The current plan is to shift these funds into > artifical intelligence research. > > Petites Singularités has started an open letter to call on the EU to > restore this funding. I would very much support Guix signing onto it. > The document, and instructions for participating in this effort, can be > found here: https://pad.public.cat/lettre-NCP-NGI > > For full disclosure, my work on the Shepherd is funded by NGI through > NLnet. While my funding is secure, it would be a tragedy if the > opportunity which I have been given to build something really cool and > (I hope) revolutionary were denied to others. > > In solidarity, > Juli The building of resilient and decentralised protocol and server technologies should be considered advantageous - if only as a matter of soft power. For example, here is a detailed breakdown of how Japan uses its cultural assets as a form of soft diplomacy - to the extent that it is happy to run investment funds at a loss: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=IM2VIKfaY0Y I felt that PS position seems correct. I always thought the funds NGI has received was peanuts and a bargain for the European project. Id sign it but Im not sure whether independents are encouraged. In any case, my (very) distinct informatics work progressed significantly as a consequence of the funding and prestige from NLNet (Icebreaker project). One would think that, given the growing spectre of authoritarianism and disinformation (that is exerting itself across many locations), that it would be useful for people to be able to say in a sustainable way: "I am here, this is who I am" *rechecks EU election results* Oh, FFS