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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, piotr.krol@3mdeb.com Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1617383493; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=AU++oTP+UOYgOB7kbSQwVUD7562C5ayAcJolWXP4YG4=; b=Pbnw9blAAzqN4TdaRy8Gyi8eM3SfRdbz/rQTwao3aDrWinqmE0+N/Oxbs10yAKoPrGKBfm d/GtVvnKEa+qTvkgHQ4pn5D+veHKUKKk5zqHbAe56a8DhLwDq/+gO4XxkRf4/aewTq2CGj pOhDaPcX1FefXHrWKN6Av3XP6MwXf5Z8ceL03mvvX+jxwMCYj5P/DNUPzi1MTXhbacqcWY rNoWei1lXLttyBRV3huR67TsHuO95vmJXu3wxRZ57BVB4ENzporo7uqQHDnPB7qqfVfx4b Hs48893Kz+SDS3jo2MUEPW86ebkDPYbU8WWYKS60leIi9+k5IjiwMODQRkF3jQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1617383493; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=l2qpIXOq/KPnyOgmjVPwoskxjIFzC8bwllCAiHEDf7Kwrx9PotGHrvtD0ZWVnwXfhUG3Ov 5qQ4/zwcgBxotFh6ZcOlLXag60lLvODPJdwtc5XxEGC2Ett+qIgh2vTrpSZVDxteVyHg55 N3FdeJUMegGZuiWe5TOEKwyYTT+XrZtp34p3dwLNgFy6deGTZHchbWmw7OhVcaArRIsGkn eBrYKk5pO0NhN+vt4Qdnh9gQ/tjJEZYyvCgsptBkW8Y/NZKV24cuJ3luXzZGtVuwRHSuq8 PgBCtLvszXfay43boDulCe4lWD7Xo6xmBBQJE62SFHMLtoob0AAYM9Me/93Ciw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b="aiol/sgA"; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 0.17 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b="aiol/sgA"; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 0ADB01C37E X-Spam-Score: 0.17 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: z8Z2L7F81BJp That is fair.  Thank you, On 4/2/21 12:37 PM, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Hi Tom, > > Tom Hiller skribis: > >> I am using it with pack and the minimal requirement the size down but >> also prevents a large number of dependencies from being pulled in when >> building from source. > The latter is true and makes sense to me, but note that both take about > the same amount of space: > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > $ guix size $(guix build -e '(@@ (gnu packages cmake) cmake-minimal)')|tail -1 > total: 215.1 MiB > $ guix size cmake | tail -1 > total: 217.8 MiB > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > The two are functionally equivalent (same run-time dependencies), which > I guess is the reason why ‘cmake-minimal’ isn’t public, unlike other > “-minimal” variants. > > Ludo’.