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No, they can't. If $local_country makes all software free, such a clause would likely be illegal in $local_country and thus unenforcible. If Apple did try to sue a $local_country citizen, $local_country could sue Apple for breaking $local_country law. > ... currently Guix isn't using the APSL2.0 anywhere (according to git > grep -F aspl), so it seems quite practical and effortless to just > remove apsl2 from (guix licenses). It actually does, through the ungoogled-chromium bundle. Cheers