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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1617149833; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=JTdPomK8H9H15JHyDyVy38PgvXAw+Orih4W37hAs5Q4=; b=LiVjAtR5GJpuDuyGXFgYhyX7v3zicWQdFxmIvF/qvAEzJSfTkiKz/Pg/BOKbJs63yu4KHm FV2+3f/D0VV1IeHja7t9/CcNFWs8xWXCCdfx6kelsRTbAX3ZlKrqICEMk0lxTaRK6Uvz2x NKApXpheJXbwMIo7bLWLdPbso2Vi2m+ooHc8138QO/2M6UqQvs8Dt0EQrIS/chiXkFfhH8 9shrJx73GY4yDHnZPbinRjbAQeEXrU07+UXYK35/NQHFydYVDQFtyHuJ8kuE86Qj9+tVt9 pAKJGHd6mkW+m/71fIqy8VCC/NvvFOUZWLJKaGOkD6Api55Mmxnt45ZHrP2nGg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1617149833; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=VOLpgyVLJzukbaFvlFF5pl8sfNAY+Dslvc1erufAQnMGnoc0A/uGAs+s7yie9Zmjpt6Ekw opXx2DsZRs48NInLjm7eADUqpBsbIGXSXFl57RVooDMuILXrWtrCFnqfLwcF/RJJinndyT 80A4VnHaj/VkAdg9MrKKqp3SRMxX6lAgzLwOyJQ7gdMgcGM5M/o/sMmRhP1wg5GFIHxbqR /TsqE3truBZ84lWEThwOityuA9fUrJvwR4qLAp4sV4e+NNhMDt2pN2JXZohWh0nE+3WwvA kTFmdFGVZvTRXhL+714AqG+IiQBDYEzoJHL74OcUzYLFq17T9ugDCq21Ov0quw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=zaclys.net header.s=default header.b=njgx47Tw; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=zaclys.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.22 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=zaclys.net header.s=default header.b=njgx47Tw; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=zaclys.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 981C8166C1 X-Spam-Score: -5.22 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: UQiLS2oDJCxe --=-tpj7IWqXPVtjKbt9j2SF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2021-03-30 at 14:12 +0200, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > > I don't feel like people should be barred to contribute to that > > GNOME > > 40 upgrade because they arent an approved committer. That doesnt > > feel > > inclusive to me. >=20 > I respectfully think you misunderstand the review process. Review is > about sharing responsibilities and reducing the likelihood of > mistakes. Additionally, please put that quote into it's surrounding context and don't assume things I have not said, I was explicitly speaking about wip branches on Savannah excluding non-committers from collaborating on them easily. If I created a wip-gnome-40 branch on Savannah then Raghav cannot push and we cannot work together easily, that way the GNOME 40 upgrade probably wont happen because Raghav is already tired I felt in some way. I think the way we work here is the best conditions to capture Raghav's motivation and energy right now and invest it within this GNOME 40 upgrade before they give up and we don't have this GNOME 40 upgrade worked on. We need git to collaborate on patches together, that's all.=20 But those patches of course do get through the review process, first with me reviewing changes as they happen, then as a whole also, because we wont push anything to core-updates, master or else without review. 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