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I never saw any violation of the code of conduct, but this does not mean they do not exist.=20 On Mon, 2024-03-18 at 20:26 +0200, MSavoritias wrote: >=20 > On 3/18/24 20:16, Tomas Volf wrote: > > On 2024-03-18 18:48:27 +0100, Vivien Kraus wrote: > > > The guix users, I claim, would rather have a distribution of guix > > > (and > > > the packages it provides) with accurate personal information, > > > even if > > > it means to be annoyed for a moment with a security system. > > Single data point: As a Guix user (and occasional contributor, > > albeit not a > > committer), I would very much prefer a system that does not rewrite > > the history. > > When someone wants to correct their name (for whatever reason), I > > would prefer > > it to be done going forward, not retroactively. > >=20 > > I think making such broad statements without some empirical study > > is not great, > > since it is, as you said yourself, just your claim not supported by > > anything (as > > far as I can tell). > >=20 > > Tomas Volf > >=20 > > -- > > There are only two hard things in Computer Science: > > cache invalidation, naming things and off-by-one errors. >=20 > It pretty easy to see who most people that use Guix agree with that=20 > actually. Check what the CoC says right here ->=20 > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/tree/CODE-OF-CONDUCT >=20 > > We as members, contributors, and leaders pledge to make > > participation=20 > in our community a harassment-free experience for everyone, > regardless=20 > of age, body size, visible or invisible disability, ethnicity, sex=20 > characteristics, gender identity and expression, level of experience, > education, socio-economic status, nationality, personal appearance,=20 > race, caste, color, religion, or sexual identity and orientation. We=20 > pledge to act and interact in ways that contribute to an open,=20 > welcoming, diverse, inclusive, and healthy community. | >=20 > So since the Guix community have agreed to make it welcoming to=20 > everybody we have to take into account people that will want to > change=20 > their names. >=20 > Social inclusion and people are above any tech ideals we may have. >=20 >=20 > We dont need to rewrite history at all also. There was a solution=20 > already by Gitlab which was also proposed in the other thread (for > legal=20 > reasons) to do with UUIDs. >=20 >=20 > MSavoritias >=20 >=20