From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: L p R n d n Subject: Re: Communication and Design at Guix Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 15:36:16 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87k1jfuk26.fsf@gnu.org> <875zus1b2t.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:41721) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gj2Pw-0007nT-UV for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 08:36:43 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gj2Pv-00046X-Qd for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 08:36:40 -0500 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.141]:59743) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gj2Pv-0003yV-Jk for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 08:36:39 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B767E160061 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 14:36:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 43dZHT6fcKz6tmM for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 14:36:05 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <875zus1b2t.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Court\=C3\=A8s\=22'\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?s\?\= message of "Sun, 13 Jan 2019 22:50:34 +0100") List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: guix-devel@gnu.org Hey, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > Hi, > > L p R n d n skribis: > >> Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > > [...] > >>> A very concrete task that could be of interest to you is the =E2=80=9Cn= ame >>> change=E2=80=9D (a bit of a strong word) that we=E2=80=99d like to impl= ement by 1.0. >>> I=E2=80=99ll try to summarize. Currently we have =E2=80=9CGuix=E2=80= =9D and =E2=80=9CGuixSD=E2=80=9D, and that >>> confuses things: people visit the web site, they see a =E2=80=9CGuixSD= =E2=80=9D logo and >>> get confused because they were just looking for a package manager, not a >>> whole distro, or they think =E2=80=9CGuixSD=E2=80=9D is a storage devic= e ;-), things >>> like that. >>> >>> The idea is to bring everything under the =E2=80=9CGuix=E2=80=9D name. = Most of the >>> time, writing =E2=80=9CGuix=E2=80=9D is good enough=E2=80=94after all, = one can run =E2=80=98guix system=E2=80=99 >>> on a foreign distro, too. When we really need to make the distinction, >>> for instance in the manual, we would write =E2=80=9CGuix System=E2=80= =9D to designate >>> what we currently call =E2=80=9CGuixSD=E2=80=9D. >> >> Hum. It might just be as easy as getting rid of the GuixSD logo and >> wording for the most part. Then we can find a *preferred* way to >> designate GuixSD (a Guix system (probably), Guix distro, Guix os).Here, >> it's more about making GuixSD "disappear" but we could also just rebrand >> GuixSD with some kind of "subtitle": "Guix, the system", derive a logo >> from the Guix's one. It depends a lot from what we want to put under the= spotlight. > > The idea is more to have a single =E2=80=9Cbrand=E2=80=9D: Guix. Then = =E2=80=9CGuix System=E2=80=9D > would be a component of Guix, so to speak, similar to GNOME and its > applications. Ok, I understand. Just thought about something really quick. Do you think describing "Guix Sytem" as a system manager, in opposition to package manager, would be meaningful? >>> This has implications mostly on the web site and on the manual. Ricardo >>> sketched web site modifications here: >>> >>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2018-01/msg00300.html >>> >>> It would probably have further implications on how we present >>> Guix/GuixSD. >>> >>> WDYT? >> >> Yeah, thinking about GuixSD as a derivative is probably the best way to >> comprehend it. So give it its own leaf page is probably a good idea. I >> would keep all downloads on the same page though and just separate them >> visually. But it depends froms what I said previously. > > Sounds reasonable. > > Would you like to give it a go? I suppose the changes to the web site > can be made incrementally, it=E2=80=99s not an all-or-nothing change. If= you=E2=80=99d > like to fiddle with this and you need guidance with the web site > machinery, don=E2=80=99t hesitate to ask on IRC or the ML! Yeah I'll try to find some time. ;) > Thanks, > Ludo=E2=80=99. Have a nice day, Lprndn