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From: George Clemmer <myglc2@gmail.com>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: "guix-devel@gnu.org" <guix-devel@gnu.org>,
	YOANN P <yoann_mac_donald@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: ~/.guix-profile/manifest usage with "guix package -m [manifest]" / "guix pack -m [manifest]" etc..
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2018 12:55:21 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cuclg7gz3t2.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sh1oms8a.fsf@gnu.org>

Hi Ludo’,

Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:

> Hello,
>
> George Clemmer <myglc2@gmail.com> skribis:
>
>> YOANN hit an error when trying to do 'guix package -m
>> ~/.guix-profile/manifest'. Why would one want to do this? Maybe to
>> (re)produce a configuration previously reached by a series of 'guix
>> package -i' operations?
>
> I agree this would be nice, but be aware that this is not quite possible
> because those files don’t have enough information to rebuild packages.
>
> Starting from a few weeks/months ago, ~/.guix-profile/manifest records
> upstream VCS information, like this:
>
>      ("libreoffice"
>       "6.1.2.1"
>       "out"
>       "/gnu/store/y4l3r7nh0dg3d8qaifz96ffab4jpjl3s-libreoffice-6.1.2.1"
>       (propagated-inputs ())
>       (search-paths ())
>       (properties
>         (provenance
>           (repository
>             (version 0)
>             (url "https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git")
>             (branch "master")
>             (commit
>               "f8e710684e5c3f866413dff825ba17bdffceac5d")))))
>
> With this info and with inferiors and channels, it becomes possible to
> rebuild the package (if we make simplifying assumptions.)
>
> So I understand the need and agree that it would be nice.  But for now,
> I strongly recommend “manifests as passed to ‘guix package -m’” because
> they’re much more expressive, especially with the introduction of the
> inferior API:
>
>   https://issues.guix.info/issue/32759

IIUC, you are describing more-or-less "exact" (re)production of an
existing profile. But that's not what I was thinking of when I said
"(re)produce a configuration". Rather, I was thinking (as described
elsewhere in the original post) of the ability to produce “manifests as
passed to ‘guix package -m’” from an existing profile.

Why? In part to smooth over a puzzling inconsistency in guix
configuration: Systems configuration is "declarative" but user-profiles
may be "incremental" ('guix package -i') or "declarative" ('guix package
-m').

My thinking is that if there was an easy way to produce “manifests as
passed to ‘guix package -m’” from profiles, it would be a handy: an easy
way for someone that has gone down the incremental path to switch to
manifests and an easy way to update one's manifest after incremental
changes.

HTH - George

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-02 16:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-25 19:55 ~/.guix-profile/manifest usage with "guix package -m [manifest]" / "guix pack -m [manifest]" etc YOANN P
2018-09-26 10:19 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-27 20:03   ` YOANN P
2018-09-27 21:49     ` Alex Kost
2018-09-29 16:33     ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-10-01 20:17   ` George Clemmer
2018-10-01 22:40     ` YOANN P
2018-10-02 12:46     ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-10-02 16:55       ` George Clemmer [this message]
2018-10-02 20:41         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-10-02 21:35           ` George Clemmer
2018-10-08 12:26           ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-10-10 14:07             ` George Clemmer
2018-10-11 13:44               ` Ludovic Courtès

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