Re: Security patching and the branching workflow: a new security-updates branch

["Léo Le Bouter" <lle-bout@zaclys.net>]

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Hello Ludo,

On Wed, 2021-03-31 at 23:29 +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> It’s unacceptable to call someone “obsessed” just because you
> disagree
> and calling Simon’s comments “harassment” is equally inappropriate.

I really do feel harassed by their comments, it's not just because I
disagree, it's that I feel they have been following me around in
several of my contributions repeating the same issues, I have heard
their criticism and I do disagree but I don't feel like bringing it up
over and over and over following me around is a great thing to do at
all!

I did not try to go and yell all around after for example 'guix pull'
was broken after some changes to substitutes handling that were pushed
for example. I just trust people to do the best. I know people want the
best for GNU Guix. I also want the best for GNU Guix. I am not trying
to somehow deliberately break GNU Guix.

> We’re all passionate about the project, and each one of us looks at
> it
> from a different angle.
> 
> You’re new to the project.  I think we’re all glad you joined; that
> has
> already boosted security work and the POWER9 port.  But we also have
> expectations: that you follow written rules (the code of conduct, the
> “Commit Access” section of the manual), and the unwritten rule that,
> as
> a newcomer, you would humbly listen to suggestions made by more
> experienced contributors.

I try to listen, and I think I have listened to criticism from many
different people. I think we've reached a point where I could not
listen anymore from Zimoun because I felt we were going in circles.
There's different opinions from different places it seems, where some
people agree with my way of doing and some others do not, and I felt
like I had more approval from other people and that while Zimoun's
criticism has been heard I have not acted upon all of their criticism.
Is it possible to do that?

> The unresolved issues Simon points out are not just technical
> problems;
> they’re a hindrance to our cooperation and to our well-being as a
> group.
> It’s completely okay to make mistakes, but it’s not okay to break the
> community rules and to dismiss the opinion of others as unimportant.

I do not dismiss other's opinion as not important, I disagree, what do
you want me to do? We have different way of doing things, if I do them 
I do them my way, if they do them they do it their way, what else can
we do here?

> 
> Please adjust accordingly.

I don't feel like that's entirely fair but I always strive to self-
improve.

> Thanks,
> Ludo’.

Léo

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