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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1651656363; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=Q8UA7k9feon24mT4PckbGuuC10pNTTrHFXtrYoZNSMc=; b=DM4rTY4TQ3ZXZeZ5WXg0aQUXQpp0bBfyG2l8PAiuTCCJd0ncPpQo0jLu32vN4a5tOmM0JH WZsa0jLNYHTGLkUC76dRwb6m0uKB5fF0Nte0iIEMW9UbcQHBI257bwhlYdAYOtxj2D45P0 dTDOn2TczAS3s9R3uQXYDaVfFgAO3lFtiyOOAqeenMwQyTAQyGXWJAnAYdUxyHQXWmzddu FbFd5yEGXiaNLbTmpeozivUgvL+aX3sWofYZpP8ABmCpPQhbcdS/se1CsZCR0O3Xw0hX8F 8kvk2h0XlDuNv2yBhT6+WLxQudspKt1MVKyVlp7ZaSL05g2AZLTQVYoUYCcsRw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1651656363; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=K0bZwGlVNFzHOx1pdwt2ZiV41s7dc/BdWxIesRjrpGvdMWntNkeqSK3dLZHOEHcTNOxQCl 6ZIx5FMbm/rZzjinplpK3iBddC9exEiT2ucn8Wm3FBn0HqfA+ArxY+NzvAm7SlWASxCcUW ynH2H5G43o5xCwGl1hHWM+oQvewbBpiJ6ExY3X90WNV13B8/WxTk9wa8c+LFVQlnCJlr1l elsC4ebUoIqjw9C2ogV2HN9x1kHOpCQgbpC0Qivl6B3wvMvWERkCQy980v1ELdU1g5jGKd z2SG4LO9gecSEqVqAb5JnmgJuIWKNPQnOxWy7B6gH/iXVyy9ZKBTulrjGcK6Sw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=telenet.be header.s=r22 header.b=RSuvjyyJ; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=telenet.be; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.68 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=telenet.be header.s=r22 header.b=RSuvjyyJ; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=telenet.be; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: B7477A2ED X-Spam-Score: -4.68 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: OIxH+amOKD47 --=-el3aBNkOS+qihFUg/arL Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maxime Devos schreef op di 03-05-2022 om 22:44 [+0200]: > Liliana Marie Prikler schreef op di 03-05-2022 om 22:04 [+0200]: > > > Also, why would the user need to split things, couldn't Guix do > > > that > > > automatically? > > Oh, sure, I'll just train a machine learning model to partition > > packages into profiles.=C2=A0 This will obviously be better than a huma= n > > figuring things out, because machines can't fail ever. > >=20 > > In case the above wasn't clear enough, I'd rather leave this > decision > > to the user along with the decision of whether or not to waste > > electricity in training an artificial intelligence.=C2=A0 Offering a > > declarative interface to profile splitting benefits everyone here. >=20 > I did not suggest any machine learning or AI?=C2=A0 Also, how can a > machine > fail here?=C2=A0 The computed partitioning might not=C2=A0be optimal, but= as > long > as we're careful with search paths and its not overly suboptimal, any > partititioning would do (in the sense that it doesn't =E2=80=98lose=E2=80= =99 packages > or invent packages oout of thin air or something). Nevermind, see =E2=80=98thematic profiles=E2=80=99. Greetings, Maxime. --=-el3aBNkOS+qihFUg/arL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iI0EABYKADUWIQTB8z7iDFKP233XAR9J4+4iGRcl7gUCYnJGbhccbWF4aW1lZGV2 b3NAdGVsZW5ldC5iZQAKCRBJ4+4iGRcl7hRnAP4stAUfgHMVM5G1InNeJOpgDWEc YmiCHqMyutT0E9RdrgEAm6Rk/tc6sFuRmE+irNbR+ARRjUJdzmZlAYg7aTPFVAM= =kUqs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-el3aBNkOS+qihFUg/arL--