Liliana Marie Prikler schreef op vr 17-06-2022 om 12:00 [+0200]: > Am Freitag, dem 17.06.2022 um 11:39 +0200 schrieb Maxime Devos: > > The clause is also rather extra-territorial: what if $local_country > > reforms copyright to make all sofware free, if we accepted ‘go to > > this jurisdiction clauses’, then opponents could effectively block > > the legally-enforced freeing of software by adding such a clause. > No, they can't.  If $local_country makes all software free, such a > clause would likely be illegal in $local_country and thus unenforcible. > If Apple did try to sue a $local_country citizen, $local_country could > sue Apple for breaking $local_country law. It's unenforcable in $local_country, yes, but the due to the ‘Dispute Resolution clause’, the sueing happens in California, not $local_country, which is the potential issue I wanted to highlight. Though possibly ... > While this clause exists, it might be unenforcible in practice. > Suppose you did violate the APSL, for instance, by linking to GPL > code. > > If you are already in California, [...], but if you don't and simply > decide to not heed their call, Apple needs to appeal to international > law enforcement or your country in particular, whichever is easier. > I doubt that this will make any difference in the US [...], but if > they have to cross either ocean, things become more difficult. ... yes, but I wouldn't know whether it will be to difficult or not for Apple and whether $local_country would agree/disagree, so I'm inclined to assume the worst for safety, unless informed by a reliable expert. Greetings, Maxime.