From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id YMDXB0dXi2BM1wAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 03:03:03 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id UNVoA0dXi2C5JgAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 01:03:03 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD48F17346 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 03:03:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:55610 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lcHYc-0000C4-1E for larch@yhetil.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2021 21:03:02 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59942) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lcHYP-0000Bv-Ih for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2021 21:02:49 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:37391) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lcHYO-0008GJ-0Z for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2021 21:02:49 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1619744566; bh=BXhksIHsweDOvL77rnaMFI9NCeXv9DYSr/9n0RdsYCk=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=c4H8n2Lvj9h2lqaiH4vQlbo18lOTEMA00z4gQEEv8bcypP8S3dELaYpKZRv2DgIke TPKoldXfaij3CfJc8rIz0fDMQfFn7TWW1ki67+2XltNkXFsdDl4676iY+xzcL0yU6C 8jIh5p5oOnIQ7GZYIkzOUVPpvAvZipPiXiiik8nc= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [10.0.0.62] ([96.57.23.83]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.174]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MTiTt-1m1H5900h3-00U09R; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 03:02:46 +0200 Subject: Re: Leaving the GNU Guix community To: Leo Le Bouter , guix-devel@gnu.org References: <888c71d21bbbc8dc7e8b4d5396694c83@zaclys.net> From: aviva Organization: Doc's Mailing List Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 21:01:18 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <888c71d21bbbc8dc7e8b4d5396694c83@zaclys.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:+eFacJuA+OktAT56y+bIlfAk6Oa4DmW9F26HqPQPb2idhDaK0io KJsznNgTSLzufvNUoZ0j7WY45gViBrSAhPL6lb891AUHhRlm9SfiMqpg99UWoJGYCuNI+QW pzGdDKJbb9ZFZMVZJVtYDlSqBgDyB2Eiet7JQs1d5hLnJLcSgOapeEwiFPhlvsjJ/SEBurD OiH6MHv8SaIiV7URvFSBg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:H1TekFsAdu0=:BTD+3WGijVs05wMw5JhbMu Vp9PR0zlAfpcMLa8dSJTesdB2AMynp0VdmBqSZUe7WFByJU6zScOYBwsrMV+hhdliZvRAfVyp u7HQGd1X3YEP69GMJQQbz9BoyHELwOGYoban9MA5Vl1KZzP0OkVU7diiFzArf3cSD0WuRDdrG QTD1VmTCYPRk76Q+7u+5LnQnbpn8Zzw0G/prKtT5sj14TmKy5ps9y3uQ6adI3+gQRiSIhAeBk bJ1ZY3Hdsu5Y2crHp4ZLn0XwFOZZxlishULLsC/SL0hzMRUGCxpcNMmxsn1Mnnmf1ZmL8XLLk ybtFP9HyPS+UrXYIDb8f42uRf0XRSdfooXmNumVq0ZQWqi7OPAtn1MNvWvlQ+8weudVcOXzEd 9Qa5Td+DYppLqonWva5yD4aA3JAYzXB6vSW2h372v824OVVhdmys1ovdSzs5GeQx95oR+5j8D VHUBkZcBvRUydq5n5CNTqvCt7lUpjFK/u1vmYco5h1o5R3MTv58BqOXF/xtU4WPlE/oZWMy31 uGooIXOvFg/a3uLw7VM+CRoEmKlswYeaYzEb50J/TvAhyspHzAKdgBkVE+JVYWvlWV6KCTXcy 2ls3lkPItjqB9Lwba1eWbJw3Uh/jbVn4TEs+wzjZcD8HOR26eVDaXVz4ATuNmn1+4yRrkc9tA Uj4JYJ3Qv9q7hgQTR0xpod1wDx4z+dtKeSEbZ9mfz/9bjcZWXwQ0gRr5t8s4m7gCRjWGYmov+ KhtW1s1KostzcpBzEAA/xB+YxE+H6wGGWLGkMlcEAOw5WKzN9foQRvntvUcG8n7VaDFQ4iLp/ so5XdZlLrsGfJoicTjpwv+UWgOmGM98LH0XLXp9Sg57FvdhLDdFfpNpa8oQfJOHWbq7rvr9im nY1mcnabAsMaBq6fD7fAmZI6dD4CwTKFh5RsTIFBub9L/JmMRphZO/wIo7Yy3lEv9NFGZK+mL FaNv06uUu8vF1r6mVGEpNYsgUiCmbF/7WhemifJikXT8EOPyO+/a1pF2Nzr5uWFPFtj1joPQQ SKrovSWXK/Tzfu9gq/FiUDVftads1aFRvOOzBbMsBJbstu3L1SQbrg2sbc5EWSf+G4xw9mOFr +txbrcGKSijbg01YuluGqfPVh153Q+dvE72YkMggOez7Atdkup9mDbIU+LM9CjWpJ1q5irQ3Q Log+a/Ffd2j8RQ2IgZoxuY74pbIc3FDCsNztnCOS7ROjCGm8SxHTJ3hal04/KYF/Qitf4= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.17.22; envelope-from=aviva@gmx.us; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1619744582; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=BXhksIHsweDOvL77rnaMFI9NCeXv9DYSr/9n0RdsYCk=; b=JpG6EyRnLt5lU6nqvB9ENttjgR2MeuEbas7PikfzqI8qdbFJbjRjVFv/1WTP9u5Nh5/fwo lpFfOzj4bdUTc0cVxHmJmWigP7N0wVG1HEA6QRg8ZMQ51f/dbwB35zyqFkqhh6qWYH/hNH wNKIW87O56fz4pcpfsRRXIQCqYf1NEV7rALVRe0ukVoYtMXALj+O7YHqFgSTfJ1QixhJPB 7uDZEVuBeSTF7WlMELjteULXFpt+OpxBOaztXhCn/tXyMK/JF6M7Lt3hv1FSBveTcvWb4R 4ehvQ3n78b4eNtmgOFLbcqbZOaIWECiCvGHv/HDufukrvuVRdF1fG37hRiyOsg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1619744582; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Tc2GAbe9ytxdWC3Zylpb9omIwZwlYQ9TkB0IJRIAx66rYyYeuPf1iYhaw8+z4LrqinNuIS ueAP6NAsy2aR2CJ0AVuIG9aCUkmtVvdbRa5YzZxfydzXVXsJXK0mheL6vG8ejPPTv8pDMi hDmVysMxrz95JNA9+8nvLH0rsRljzqClitZF+W7anx19XKSs2lmtSqfuJM4PNVor5BhFbB XET6jtHB/75mUgBTzJGHPCUf3R/tYCn2jHrWB0OO3by6Ob3dMi0u+Ctq+vwtYHxFoJk2Tq NaNXKE5fC7ktglAptG8UL3KHtWNzcL8Vmwkx2avL5oC7MFS1hP4S/OUMvSgGmA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmx.net header.s=badeba3b8450 header.b=c4H8n2Lv; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), DKIM not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmx.us (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.56 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmx.net header.s=badeba3b8450 header.b=c4H8n2Lv; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), DKIM not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmx.us (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: CD48F17346 X-Spam-Score: -2.56 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: FkozM7VcUMWy On 4/29/21 7:43 PM, Leo Le Bouter wrote: > I don't feel like there's any way forward to this, we really do not > understand each other, I don't know how to communicate the culture in > some feminist/queer squats in France around Paris where I live, where we > really feel together on the same page when it comes to these questions > and where also we exclude people who don't understand these goals, in > which I feel so good and where really every confrontation is avoided and > has many values that building an inclusive community like GNU Guix wants > to be. I feel you are trying to say something significant here, but it is not understandle.