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From: Saku Laesvuori <saku@laesvuori.fi>
To: Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@gmail.com>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Should commits rather be buildable or small
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2023 17:28:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <baafvkmdhdyeevcd6jwric4qg7e7g5lmfq2f7lhzp3aumxh3ow@3bnc5vcgab2w> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6bcc9412f092c20fbd7f8326dbf91e90cef0eed1.camel@gmail.com>

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> Hi Saku,
> 
> Am Freitag, dem 08.12.2023 um 10:42 +0200 schrieb Saku Laesvuori:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm planning on refreshing Guix's haskell packages as my fix for
> > https://issues.guix.gnu.org/66347 requires rebuilding all of them
> > anyway. Should I try to keep commits small with only one update per
> > commit (which is more work but managable if I don't care about the
> > commits being buildable) or should I try to keep them buildable (i.e.
> > update everything in one commit)? It is quite certain that most of
> > them will not build after updating ghc or a subset of their
> > dependencies, so making many small commits would cause nearly all of
> > them to be unbuildable.
>
> Define "buildable" and "unbuildable".

I used these definitions: a buildable commit does not have build
failures (or at least no new ones). An unbuildable commit introduces new build failures (in
this case a lot of them).

Buildable commits are safe spots to land on with time-machine in the
sense that the packages defined in them can be used. I expect it would
be very painful to try jumping to past commits with time-machine if a
large portion of the commits in Guix were unbuildable.

> Depending on the context, it may be fine or even required to break
> dependant packages for a short while and update them along a longer
> series.

I guess "required" here means that in some cases Guix's policy is to
prefer small commits over buildable commits (with the previous
definition). I at least don't see any technical reasons why it would be
required. The question then becomes whether that policy applies in this
case.

> However, in each commit at least the package touched in that
> commit ought to build.

This should, of course, be theoretically possible with at least one
update order but I don't know how would I discover that order (more
efficiently than by trial and error. I don't want to try ~800² different
combinations).

- Saku

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-10 15:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-08  8:42 Should commits rather be buildable or small Saku Laesvuori
2023-12-08 11:41 ` Tomas Volf
2023-12-08 12:05 ` Lars-Dominik Braun
2023-12-08 16:35   ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2023-12-08 15:44 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-12-10 15:28   ` Saku Laesvuori [this message]
2023-12-10 15:50     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-12-10 17:02     ` Attila Lendvai
2023-12-10 17:50       ` Ricardo Wurmus
2023-12-10 23:20         ` Attila Lendvai
2023-12-10 23:56           ` Philip McGrath
2023-12-11 10:51             ` Attila Lendvai
2023-12-11 11:51               ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-03-04 21:38                 ` John Kehayias
2024-03-05  4:32                   ` dan
2024-03-05  5:19                   ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2024-03-25  1:15                     ` John Kehayias
2024-03-25  3:23                       ` dan
2024-03-25  3:23                         ` [bug#69461] " dan

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