From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id E8a+M4o0t19QVgAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2020 03:14:18 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id aJT8Loo0t1/MCwAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2020 03:14:18 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1258F9400D3 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2020 03:14:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:37766 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kfwsK-0005q7-PZ for larch@yhetil.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 22:14:16 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35114) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kfwrX-0004qK-06 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 22:13:27 -0500 Received: from 01d.relay.hey.com ([204.62.114.227]:37821) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kfwrU-0003mj-7y for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 22:13:26 -0500 Received: from hey.com (bigip-vip-new.rw-ash-int.37signals.com [10.20.0.24]) by 01.relay.hey.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C16F1005BE; Fri, 20 Nov 2020 03:13:20 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hey.com; s=heymail; t=1605842000; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to; bh=eKHQKOzfImZsBQwfcZhTkzxxfjxV1c1LG3w/0TUoTj0=; b=DpQAsHtE/uzCDfjtUVJAzasUMjI6wrKRXe2ZdT9zM8oF6W0Nq7z+x2t9WGZ180xfHemPn2 Nucr+tiLx47AWv/YCB/1v9QsKEYbsdXF7ywDfMDI6JbqfEUcohamgu1OUqyd/AkFwHEAC2 Q1Y3vk5Y0WQ3r0Cb55jfXk+hz0phk2cnoPlhRUP9jf1lL/fs+N6hZ6wh6rW7DB+T/r96tP X/dlEy38ab1ZtTZHSNJjCIN6Jz11BcgnXDQfnriP0rm4f2oIAVZTAtW1BHINFOrNxoVPxN Cwiw27uzpvEO1Q63JradwO2Vpu3otJLt+P5zBvvL7eTAhYU/ZdfuBSG1reAAkA== Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 03:13:19 +0000 From: Ryan Prior To: zimoun , =?UTF-8?B?THVkb3ZpYyBDb3VydMOocw==?= , Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution , Pierre Neidhardt Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <87h7ploic9.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> Subject: Re: GNU Guix 1.2.0rc2 available for testing! 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=hey.com header.s=heymail header.b=DpQAsHtE; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=hey.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.29 X-TUID: 4WTZ94itJoKr ----==_mimepart_5fb7344fd92e7_4c172dc8428ac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On November 19, 2020, Pierre Neidhardt wrote: > [--without-tests] would encourage untested builds if I > recall correctly That may have been a concern (I wasn't part of the conversation) but I don't see how the current implementation could do that. If a normal "guix build foo" fails, then it's a busted package period. I'm glad for the "without-tests" option because when I'm working on packages with a test suite that takes more than a few seconds, I like to make sure that the rest of everything is working before I start running the tests. Another thing I'd like is an option to build a package reusing the state from a previous build. If a package I'm working on takes a minute or longer to build and I'm having some sort of difficulty, it's obnoxious to wait for that to complete again after every cycle. It could be near instantaneous if I could re-use a cached build, which is doable in Docker, Earthly, and other containerized build systems. ----==_mimepart_5fb7344fd92e7_4c172dc8428ac Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On November 19, 2020, Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz> w= rote:
[--without-tests] would encourage untested builds = if I
recall correctly

That may have been a concer= n (I wasn't part of the conversation) but I don't see how the current imp= lementation could do that. If a normal "guix build foo" fails, = then it's a busted package period.

I'm glad for the "without-= tests" option because when I'm working on packages with a test suite= that takes more than a few seconds, I like to make sure that the rest of= everything is working before I start running the tests.

Another t= hing I'd like is an option to build a package reusing the state from a pr= evious build. If a package I'm working on takes a minute or longer to bui= ld and I'm having some sort of difficulty, it's obnoxious to wait for tha= t to complete again after every cycle. It could be near instantaneous if = I could re-use a cached build, which is doable in Docker, Earthly, and ot= her containerized build systems.
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