From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id uIaVA93/r2BP1wAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 27 May 2021 22:23:57 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id gFPTOtz/r2CyOQAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 27 May 2021 20:23:56 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE641E5F2 for ; Thu, 27 May 2021 22:23:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:38510 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lmMXr-0004k3-DA for larch@yhetil.org; Thu, 27 May 2021 16:23:55 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37232) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lmMXj-0004jv-9I for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 May 2021 16:23:47 -0400 Received: from minsky.hcoop.net ([104.248.1.95]:40222) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lmMXh-0006UF-Gs for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 May 2021 16:23:46 -0400 Received: from marsh.hcoop.net ([45.55.52.66]) by minsky.hcoop.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lmMXc-00084r-C2; Thu, 27 May 2021 16:23:40 -0400 Date: Thu, 27 May 2021 16:23:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Jack Hill X-X-Sender: jackhill@marsh.hcoop.net To: Joshua Branson Subject: Re: Rust freedom issue claim In-Reply-To: <87k0nknshu.fsf@dismail.de> Message-ID: References: <87bl90byqf.fsf@disroot.org> <87k0nlsh0c.fsf@gnu.org> <20210526151415.yer3zduopggr6ds6@thebird.nl> <87k0nknshu.fsf@dismail.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (DEB 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received-SPF: pass client-ip=104.248.1.95; envelope-from=jackhill@jackhill.us; helo=minsky.hcoop.net X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1622147036; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=Y6LS9/VxIvkisf4Ds2+CW4VWRQvFFWrb/2pilDgu9SQ=; b=UARo5B+nBXnr36TXbIN78z7ewTp/MYMeJRCXdtB3AAOA3RfpOskABb1kJHVCvSVvGp5NeQ RADYGCexB0+zmhpt3tBDd4LZI9l5K9JJs7oByyjgT3WOqShxcgGtCDbIHJm9jnfTI5FFWB ws0qFNjcQ1aDer49/hxiAJJRP/j4ECvrsHuNuVRPmNppbt9472n1ubVmP3xQ92IWlRcqP2 xzRgkg0qDFlJXIYUqRh+rIvSo09wCfXizZhkdU0u+caw/OlF0fz1/vMvj7HWvVeOKXgm44 Kg0cCxDG+zAWuubIMTNEEh3ez+n8v7ilTFtpWiWG3hcX05QygTB6scnlWo9/uQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1622147036; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=CYiGPziSqwJd1/yRTX135fD8N2xg0IgSYHT7xOlitEBJT1zbNx1lBgkThfD4LyTpFmdwRv P417HA3+BS3sPtc7iJPUDi8umwjnjLy3SGkEOHz9+8tBSMR2tpacNfNjxxcN6s3DHha62m W7711vLi43CPkCNQcmJv/AIxBb2sDedq/2hfQJuAd0S+beHGx4nmGETtHNdnEyEWnjz4H0 g8c13m8YF/iuXCeNWjKxqG95E4bRNhKUtOHHOrr6n4F8J8MXuS/FpttiCP+d7JJvQsYgiz JXTV/PAf+iur73JxnTcvjyii696SvUinElvwW1oOq1RA1rybnc6PLps2h14+pQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.43 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: AE641E5F2 X-Spam-Score: -2.43 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: AempEnPkIRUF On Thu, 27 May 2021, Joshua Branson wrote: > In terms of languages trying to be replacements for C: > > - Zig is one of the most famous ones, and will probably be the first C > alternatives to reach 1.0. https://ziglang.org/ > > - Odin https://odin-lang.org/ > > - scopes which using S-expressions https://sr.ht/~duangle/scopes/ > > - Drew Devault's (creator or sway) secret programming language. It may > be the second language on this list to reach 1.0 Thanks for this list. Clearly we are living in a world of riches. I am also aware of: - Carp https://github.com/carp-lang/Carp (s-expressions, research project) - Pony https://www.ponylang.io/ (actors) Best, Jack