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The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --925712948-2001019263-1588786536=:5735 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Wed, 6 May 2020, Vincent Legoll wrote: > Hello, > >> In the intervening years, interest faded away as free software friendly >> MIPS hardware became more rare. > > I grabbed a gnubee during the crowdfunding campaign, but the CPU > is too low spec to do a lot of compilation on it. I also have a gnubee, and would love to be able to put Guix on it. However, so far I haven't put much time into getting it working. It would certainly be more fun to work on it with others :) My impression is that the the gnubee is a different class of MIPS than the current port. I think that the gnubee is a SoC that is is targeted at home routers and is 32-bit, while the current port is 64-bit and targeted at chips like the longsoon. Is that correct? There seems to be a a fair amount of the router-class hardware available that works with Free Software, but not much, if any, of the latter, more powerful hardware. Unfortunately, I think having the more powerful hardware available would make it much easier to work on the port. […] >> What do people think? > > I may not be able to put huge time in it so won't ask you to keep it > just for me. > > I'll restart working / trying things in the foreign archs area after my > list of pending things is drained a bit (guix-install.sh & tarball CI, > native-inputs lint warning chasing) but that's only wishful thinking > for now. I feel similarly. It's always sad to see things go (I used to have a collection of SPARC hardware, but let it go when I moved a few years ago), but no need to keep it just for me. Vincent, it sounds like there are at least two of us. Maybe we can work together. Best, Jack --925712948-2001019263-1588786536=:5735--