From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Adam Pribyl Subject: Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 22:12:55 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: References: <87ftk4hbhu.fsf@gnu.org> <20191008081928.mcg7oxb3q5jp6nhr@pelzflorian.localdomain> <20191008123253.00a44e6b@kompiuter> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="8323329-1465192889-1570738269=:7000" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41433) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iIeo0-0000Th-3K for Guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 16:13:01 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iIeny-0003ng-LN for Guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 16:12:59 -0400 Received: from sandbox.cz ([87.236.197.188]:50312 helo=mx.sandbox.cz) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iIeny-0003mS-FE for Guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 16:12:58 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sandbox.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97CD3408D8 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 22:12:55 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <20191008123253.00a44e6b@kompiuter> Content-ID: List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" Cc: Guix-devel This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --8323329-1465192889-1570738269=:7000 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 8 Oct 2019, Jan wrote: > On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 10:19:28 +0200 > "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" wrote: > >> On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 10:59:41PM -0300, Wilson Bustos wrote: >>> Which 'behavior' are you exactly talking about? >> >> Perhaps >> https://medium.com/@selamjie/remove-richard-stallman-appendix-a-a7e41e= 784f88 >> >> Thank you, GNU maintainers, for your statement. >> >> Regards, >> Florian >> > > I would like to note a lot of articles on the Internet purposely > misquote Stallman. For example this header from your link: > "Renowned MIT Scientist Defends Epstein: Victims Were =A1Entirely > Willing=A2". > He didn't defend Epstein, he had actually called him a "serial rapist" > earlier, also in the mail he didn't say "victims", note the plural. He > also said the victim could be *presented* to Minsky as entirely willing= , > he didn't say she actually was. Language is a really subtle tool and > small things like this can make a big change. > > So please, be careful, when reading those articles and judge wisely, > especially because the situation is a really delicate matter. > > I also found the link to arguments defending Stallman: > https://sterling-archermedes.github.io/ > > I don't really know what should I think about all of this, but it > would be a bit unjust if Stallman didn't have any defense, even if he > made a mistake. > > > Hope I won't get excluded from the project, because of my opinion, > Jan > > I have to second this. I've read the full RMS mails the day they were=20 published and was disgusted what media did with this conversation. In thi= s=20 case I do not agree with the Guix statement=20 joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project... Adam Pribyl --8323329-1465192889-1570738269=:7000--