From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id cP3qH7UgHWB+OQAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 05 Feb 2021 10:40:53 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id YIy7G7UgHWDVTAAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 05 Feb 2021 10:40:53 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14BA7940416 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 2021 10:40:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:48176 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l7yXj-0005YD-UP for larch@yhetil.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2021 05:40:51 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51158) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l7yXW-0005Ug-FX for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2021 05:40:38 -0500 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:50361) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l7yXU-0002V1-Dn for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2021 05:40:38 -0500 Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DXBlQ11r9z1qt4f for ; Fri, 5 Feb 2021 11:40:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.70]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DXBlQ0wxvz1tYTb for ; Fri, 5 Feb 2021 11:40:34 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WvwSBN_eRJ5A for ; Fri, 5 Feb 2021 11:40:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from hermia.goebel-consult.de (ppp-188-174-60-247.dynamic.mnet-online.de [188.174.60.247]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Fri, 5 Feb 2021 11:40:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from lenashee.goebel-consult.de (lenashee.goebel-consult.de [192.168.110.2]) by hermia.goebel-consult.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA989602A2 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 2021 11:40:30 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Questions regarding Python packaging From: Hartmut Goebel To: guix-devel@gnu.org References: <20201108142717.lmud5h4gh44vtjc6@melmoth> <1609946775.8blxygrg9p.astroid@rafflesia.none> <1611303651.35tpgtn1z1.astroid@melmoth.none> Organization: crazy-compilers.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2021 11:40:30 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Received-SPF: none client-ip=212.18.0.9; envelope-from=h.goebel@crazy-compilers.com; helo=mail-out.m-online.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.182, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.35 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 14BA7940416 X-Spam-Score: -2.35 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: HohZxSaTF3s6 Am 23.01.21 um 13:34 schrieb Lars-Dominik Braun: > Remove pip and > setuptools from python (saves almost 20MiB from the closure When doing to we need to be carefully. pip is expected to be available after installing "python". So when removing pip and setuptool, we would need some "python/bootstrap" package without pip and setuptools and some "python" package still including both. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goebel@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |