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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1645812860; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=Hu47eHEc28cujTGv1kIiclPpw5WKSVmXjJB4o22Bugs=; b=JQJCHEA+0aVSpwwtYpzMja1uyCGjlpGjuXBSsp0t5LQ5aNmZ7B9WtpXzlehyuqWUT+sa6K 7fQIcbV0JQMh+H1VnUFe8PPoIovcpIu4fuvcjOd1/OIxEw/ZTxJYVxOtspuT2iBbRAOxvd 3MJHOXqklyEy8h9cNLhuA8oc9X1FTciwdGJ1pVra9dFYmrzBIzhY2vGXPgcInP7SgjyajJ dK09dLP2yquD4Wzgnr1XahquINedODA8yOYZ04s2cXSsXXZz3w7rZElXJTky7ZWM0vKDWq GMUWVswuBqqf0UQXMZLN9eF/g/YNJxyei1frzMTLh9T/XS9GscyAQg3p7g0n/g== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1645812860; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=CPnnRYKthSghS8E+FpPfcpYPb7KX2/2i9HPnHOoCEYhDnSH7ZBRNSkib90fYgOSHbi5zMW FTtJChpad/c5WIKNXjOc7M3PS+/8vLXEYZyRoUVsy3FkiQc0pHSkTaDuh+xTMIjDfFeq5R o62+/0Gi0n2nDKflrzGQRI16EIzcT/TnyxM0qCtWAExObVhU7MehcqQ2aLE0E+cDJo3Kq5 Y/LL7Im0OzIU3XRC9dPKfq4TDJXIG7VIyTwWzaHLK4bl/lWiPDpnqkgOQy5BigYrG6Bo05 uxDPDy9S8HzxFR8KTWzugDs8s857cIDmqZpk3VeWstS5JlVJ0ii1y8MGmwrK2Q== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=PY5Lpauu; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.33 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=PY5Lpauu; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: A0FC13833A X-Spam-Score: -3.33 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: V39UF1g6XtM/ On 25.02.2022 18:05, Maxime Devos wrote: > > A separate spin-off mailing list might address this (does not have to > be on gnu.org or associated with guix per-se). It seems like Ricardo > Wurmus wants any such list, if any, to be outside guix itself. Would > you have an idea for the location? > There's a gnu-misc-discuss mailing list which seems to be used for topics that are only tangentially on-topic. It might be a candidate. Though it has some... well, trolls IMO, though I won't name names. So maybe it's not the best place. Just throwing it out there. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnu-misc-discuss/ -- Taylan