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From: Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il>
To: MSavoritias <email@msavoritias.me>
Cc: Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>, guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Lets cut this off
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 14:56:16 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Znle4PPoMSD8H1d7@3900XT> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240624103005.53ccbb80@fannys.me>

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It seems to me that there are two assertions in this (long) thread:
* Consent should be required before letting SWH know there's new
  source code in the wild.
* The license of the code gives SWH all the legal rights it needs to use
  the code however they see fit.

As for the second one, I don't recall reading any arguments that SWH
doesn't have the *legal* right to slurp up all Free Software source code
they want and to use it how they want. I'm going to move right past this
one.

As far as the consent-required assertion, it seems to come down to "I
don't like what they're doing with the code so they should be required
to get my consent". This runs directly counter to the license.

Another reading could be "SWH may find the code later on their own, but
I don't want to make it easy for them because I disagree with how they
handle the code". I don't see this as running counter to the licenses in
question, but it does run counter to Guix's integration with the SWH.
The Software Heritage already acts as a fallback location to recreate
missing tarballs and this is something we want to continue to happen. I
see removing the SWH linter tie-in as shooting ourselves in the foot and
not likely to make any difference to the SWH.

On a personal level it is always possible to run 'guix lint' with the
'--no-network' flag or the '--exclude=archival' flag.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-06-24 11:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-18  8:37 Next Steps For the Software Heritage Problem MSavoritias
2024-06-18 14:19 ` Ian Eure
2024-06-19  8:36   ` Dale Mellor
2024-06-20 17:00     ` Andreas Enge
2024-06-20 18:42       ` Dale Mellor
2024-06-20 20:54         ` Andreas Enge
2024-06-20 20:59           ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2024-06-20 21:12             ` Andreas Enge
2024-06-21  8:41             ` Dale Mellor
2024-06-21  9:19               ` MSavoritias
2024-06-21 13:33                 ` Luis Felipe
2024-06-21 17:51               ` Exclude checker with package properties [draft PATCH] Simon Tournier
2024-06-21 18:37                 ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-06-21 18:44                   ` Simon Tournier
2024-06-21 18:42                 ` Simon Tournier
2024-06-22 15:54                 ` Draft: dry-run + Exclude checker with package properties Simon Tournier
2024-06-20 21:27         ` Next Steps For the Software Heritage Problem Simon Tournier
2024-06-18 16:21 ` Greg Hogan
2024-06-18 16:33   ` MSavoritias
2024-06-18 17:31     ` Greg Hogan
2024-06-18 17:57       ` Ian Eure
2024-06-19  7:01       ` MSavoritias
2024-06-19  9:57         ` Efraim Flashner
2024-06-20  2:56         ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-06-20  5:18           ` MSavoritias
2024-06-19 10:10 ` Efraim Flashner
2024-06-21  8:39 ` About SWH, let avoid the wrong discussion Simon Tournier
2024-06-21  9:12   ` MSavoritias
2024-06-21  9:46     ` Andreas Enge
2024-06-21 10:44       ` MSavoritias
2024-06-21 13:45         ` Luis Felipe
2024-06-21 14:15           ` MSavoritias
2024-06-21 16:33             ` Luis Felipe
2024-06-21 17:04               ` Msavoritias
2024-06-21 16:34             ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2024-06-21 16:51         ` Vagrant Cascadian
2024-06-21 17:22           ` MSavoritias
2024-06-21 20:51             ` Vagrant Cascadian
2024-06-22 15:46               ` MSavoritias
2024-06-22 17:55                 ` Breath, let take a short break :-) Simon Tournier
2024-06-24  7:30                   ` MSavoritias
2024-06-24 10:23                     ` Tomas Volf
2024-06-24 11:56                     ` Efraim Flashner [this message]
2024-06-21 17:25           ` About SWH, let avoid the wrong discussion Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-06-22 13:06         ` Richard Sent
2024-06-22 14:42           ` MSavoritias
2024-06-22 19:53             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-06-24  7:55               ` MSavoritias
2024-06-24  9:13                 ` Ricardo Wurmus

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