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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Spam-Score: -3.98 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 7B22DCC02 X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.98 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx10.migadu.com X-TUID: JItkVmAkd8kx --rjCWV7gY7uK+7vZy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 01:47:49PM -0400, Maxim Cournoyer wrote: > Hello, >=20 > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: >=20 > > Hi Steve, > > > > Steve George skribis: > > > >> On 10 Apr, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >>> To be clear (but I guess it=E2=80=99s crystal clear to anyone who=E2= =80=99s been around > >>> long enough :-)), what we need most is someone to keep track of chang= es, > >>> coordinate efforts, decide what goes in the branch and what=E2=80=99s= postponed > >>> or moved to a separate branch, and send periodic (weekly) status upda= tes > >>> over the course of a couple of months. This can (and probably should) > >>> be done without doing any actual hacking on the branch. > >> (...) > >> > >> This sounds like something I can do: > >> > >> - track changes (in branch) > >> - co-ordinate blocking issues (in bug system) > >> - co-ordinate with people doing the actual work :-P > >> - send (periodic) weekly emails > >> - encourage shipping by minimising scope creep ;-) > > > > Awesome, thanks for volunteering! > > > >> Sounds like there's already agreement to revert the 'pkgconf' change > >> and push a new branch without them which becomes > >> 'core-updates'. Josselin on IRC I had the impression you were > >> working on that? > > > > I=E2=80=99m not sure what the situation is (I see Maxim just pushed cha= nges on > > top of current =E2=80=98core-updates=E2=80=99, so maybe it=E2=80=99s OK= ?). >=20 > Since branches were merged in, I believe the problem we are facing at > the moment is librsvg failing its test suite with a segfault (!). Could > be the glibc upgrade, or rust itself, I'm not sure. I was trying to > upgrade librsvg, which needs an update anyway, but it pulls many rust > crates updates. I'll get there eventually, if nobody beats me to it. I personally think getting librsvg updated will be easier on the rust-team branch than on the core-updates branch, since there have been many commits to the rust-team branch that haven't yet been merged into master. Assuming that now that the cairo upgrade to 1.18 was what was holding back the librsvg upgrade, I can get librsvg up to a newer version and then submit it for a merge. Overall the branch should be in fairly good shape. > > Josselin, Maxim: could you explain what problems there are around > > pkgconf and what you would recommend? >=20 > Nothing in particular to point at the moment, but remaining problems > would manifest in the form of missing inputs, due to transitive libtool > dependencies causing overlinking and the new pkgconf being smart enough > to optimize away some previously captured link directives that would be > baked in the RUNPATH and sastify libtool overlinking needs. >=20 > The solution is to hunt the libtool .la files from the transitive > dependencies causing the problem and removing them. See commit > b6540bd285cbe5920ad379ddfc6256359ee7204c for an example. >=20 > --=20 > Thanks, > Maxim >=20 --=20 Efraim Flashner =D7=A8=D7=A0=D7=A9=D7=9C=D7=A4 = =D7=9D=D7=99=D7=A8=D7=A4=D7=90 GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypted --rjCWV7gY7uK+7vZy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEoov0DD5VE3JmLRT3Qarn3Mo9g1EFAmYmjlQACgkQQarn3Mo9 g1GbwBAAgr5e5fJLgkoKNDuC5aHD+eyJeT8ld9dI7rBV8GD/H/Q8lZBkA/sVGH3n tHYn1L36YR3sLelGBCFSXkH+003Cw8SY/78aV26wmWmbqR/LPaXHsigD2+wFiBbH myWvTiffhprgG5g2r1MLsl7xzvTIW3uFny4yALsvzDxFfLtH9CJdYJ7CntJ+Jg6s z5vmL7q6E6H/hdfIEZN+1p2WtiUIs/rweE6SUfaMTuT+r9grGyDDAN945/5SSSGc Nvt3QwX+XGSbNoGuHdZL+CLYnacj0N2us7+UaaVLju/brAPQLTtdmDRahey2EGKm wiJXLfRJ6TCmtcXULc456ORjw181IsrGXqCbMQHPTtFS09cLp10xLTbCw35oUM5S x3QAIEUBIGTiZVNux0GNx90IUa4/tMbI7BtqdQ4r2Db61tt/92RU/lSsfnI+Quh1 9EpuGnkvUsJ64vFlvdSEC/EFxwNX6aZXTfyarhArYVsCRcsIHOdz2rqfqO9CCq08 n/70Xcty6X+/1NSo82sL0nXgW9ty7JO82aYa0udcGwD6iRkB4pA8lo3V0sZxSNZi TFGF81scr65psuazCvjEXAvw/rAaO5t5BeUiRlRiyy7bCuim+Aik/579rt+FST8Y T3dB8cj8IdTLTS9Y1MaUmHe5PEkccgeBTALw9RukvNjZGcontVs= =a/Gz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rjCWV7gY7uK+7vZy--