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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 884C96C874 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx10.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -10.47 X-Spam-Score: -10.47 X-TUID: paCq6qDs0897 --eF6/VoUHllE4XXqe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2024-01-04 14:22:48 -0500, Thompson, David wrote: > On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 5:34=E2=80=AFAM Tomas Volf <~@wolfsden.cz> wrote: > > > > Greetings, > > > > I would like to inquire regarding digital-ocean-configuration type used= for > > provisioning DigitalOcean Droplets. I do not understand why it is acce= ptable to > > have this type in the source code. Reading the Free GNU/Linux distribu= tions > > criteria[0] I see this sentence (emphasis mine): > > > > > This means they will include, and *propose*, exclusively free softwar= e. > > > > As far as I know DigitalOcean Droplets are not free software (please co= rrect me > > if I am wrong). I contemplated on this for a bit, and I do not underst= and why > > it is acceptable. > > > > Would someone be so kind to explain the reason to me? > > Perhaps this will help explain why you can't simply call a web service > nonfree: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/network-services-arent-free-or-no= nfree.en.html Ah, thank you very much for the link. Interesting reading. One consequence I did not (until now) realize is that I could (in theory) implement a Free GNU/Linux distribution that would be tied into various API= s of (for example) AWS and require it to run. And, based on my reading, it would still qualify to be on the list. That is unexpected. > > To use a different example: Google doesn't publish the source code for > YouTube. Guix includes the free software yt-dlp program that can talk > to YouTube and download videos. Would you consider this a violation of > the FSDG? > > Guix also downloads a lot of source code from GitHub. Is this an issue? I did not consider these examples, because it did not even occur to me that= it *could* be an issue. I guess the perceived difference came from the Drople= ts having their own dedicated place in the manual including their own type. My takeaway from this is that when I get around to implementing this for AWS and/or Azure, I can submit the patch. 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