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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 273C838BB6 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx1.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.79 X-Spam-Score: -2.79 X-TUID: gXUXNKOSdG3o Hello, related to this thread, I just came across an entry in Cory Doctorow's blog: https://pluralistic.net/2023/08/18/openwashing/#you-keep-using-that-word-i-do-not-think-it-means-what-you-think-it-means It is already interesting in its disection of the terms "open" vs. "free", which is quite relevant to us (but just echoes the sentiment I had anyway). The end can be seen as an invitation to *not* package neurol network related software at all: by packaging "big corporation X"'s free software, but which is untrainable on anything but big corporations' hardware, we actually help big corporation X to entrap users into its "ecosystem". Andreas