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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1683794192; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=NRv4oWGwK/qZnlnx7Js3EZCxAboI1Fx1U3uaGDZg+d1OEXegz2cIqpLvM94NTXOfWeczM4 nXTY62k2sIQ8M1D/CE+EaI3mBr/0gawym4Fg4f1M1rzFC9+K8GhWyw3yJUJ3HolSZR/bX+ fU9uAkeKHqUwQAe1WS0jhxvA/Neqe54kd55oEI4v0G0OGrLVXd+Kjv+fBKheewV0UZ+ENz d/h5fW4dCvRCKY5lOU+gMYRODMFiDTivN2h58vFJknibwDWr26dPyEy+qH8R9BRF2Bkzd6 gCPz9ccvZE4em33/oEuZ9OHtjuWzcF4W9lAKMo64DvbWC0iEQOSwJrf9Cy4Tow== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20221208 header.b="mP1/IFXY"; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1683794192; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=YqTrP53e1qKGyk5tsMk8p94tMboyJmX3l714pIF7dFk=; b=bk3zjcWW1O4lSjsxTdoO55iQEZGhiuM9aN8bIQ5e1HFUWxom8YKHM5Yr7ctGp0MUnXvu9m INfhLhtJeHnmyBZP03+ZVloWxJ0nguplTmu52K10ZdtK4meUjd8vlCcYeXcxu5DEYt761W DIZUzdMrwprMzZKnJGI3IYhTCX/bp9UHCBvY+HqHXVotjyzCiMcRd5eeV7WlDZ9+eibgi/ 4vweh3whO1qhJtK/IolEqAdU0qloZgzQIy/sgDKDU43AK+RukhU4VumtG1QY7ip1X+fsJC l79weCf2WgTz8wzAtXVs0zvWh1cOYEEq8nfyQuFGSIk7a9trsuGq6EPqcCr9IQ== X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.51 X-Spam-Score: -1.51 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 7C9DB3DA30 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20221208 header.b="mP1/IFXY"; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-TUID: 2In/zmahHdtq --5yvq0B0oCGygWkl4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 01:39:05PM +0200, Andreas Enge wrote: > Hello all, >=20 > the title says it all, I wish to share some conclusions from working on > the core-updates merge. Clearly our tooling could be improved for the tas= k; > there was some flying by night without instruments, and in the end I > merged the branch without being really able to tell how it compared > to master... (You may also blame it partially on my lack of patience.) > Having feature branches may or may not make things a bit easier, but it > will definitely not solve the problems. I have to agree with this sentiment. I merged the rust-team branch with the gut-feeling that nothing new was broken, but I wasn't really sure how to compare the two. > This mail is also of course a bit politically sensitive: It may look like > I am complaining about other people's work, who are volunteers and do what > they can, without offering to work on the code myself. So as a preamble, > let me express my gratitude to the few people who have been working > tirelessly on our tooling and contributing to our infrastructure, without > whom big code changes like we did on core-updates (and now on feature > branches) would simply be impossible; their work is vital to the project > and often not very visible. If I am critical, it is not to diminish their > work, but to discuss about a positive path forward; and I hope more people > will find the motivation to do infrastructure work, which I think will be > decisive for the success of Guix (together with policy and organisational > questions). I too wish to thank everyone for all the work they have done. 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