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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1681908129; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=d3GjDt9yU2hlXalt2QY9ychaXoiXvLnSQvBeSaFe5T6kXnLfxhKODFBd9pMTW1eXfjw/Jh l6/1TZkrhUhzFH1f9vn5tE7s43t5kQJbcyUfqrGbYE+uvMgxyb7VRuGF4W2Z3bNszXxKQe OP9xSpN+zVsGi09Ede4xL6qc1UBJ1rVD/YjfTUA7OkhCfgj1E+HFAqnEwKIpdtSO5hua7W 9IPfVLBr9UMfyx7DnuMhIt4IsGl6nhHy9LR+clzvCrpe+ONaiFfn8EWQl5VKw1JybHDrOj Xdk6140TveMKzX11Ih1D4YCfpabSXp7ziPtH+1P/4xj2hygLWUktA3obX0Pqig== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1681908129; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=++f+6jdR/V1MO4jzMQLvRiGITA1TYSx84aDXSBaV5CQ=; b=qV/RjV1IHVZn0ldU5VzJwvLvtyAifWc4WKE9PPNGaJfy/iYH1iyn8GCyHKHUYW6EzqdSR0 F6wPoBkRv/Wvd2ErM3u0xabicOH1sW0AX41ZFNSeqX9+IzCFTSu+SZdgovt/mS/NLB5GUY XHXLWa0g3m0Uwp22Jk3onYcygo74QMSzipYGBfGI2NQbl4JbX5z88/5ZXlMQzRAPLLwBJE M+bvRs6zknFby2jpPvtofwIhbUTJUrdiY4JueZBx3yptR4BouNTyYsP4TSKvW7pn6J3Kyy 7fsb1eM1QuB201AGLJxLuxZMhqiEBseRdIEK1JcHC4QAyZo7iVM30lezYX7DUg== X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.51 X-Spam-Score: -2.51 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 1428F107A0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-TUID: pk5Yl59CoZLs Am Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 11:58:03AM +0100 schrieb Christopher Baines: > I haven't restarted submitting builds for core-updates given I think > there's still some big changes going to land, but in any case, it would > be good to get this going once there are no planned big changes (aka the > branch is frozen). I am not sure what "frozen" means exactly; I would say we must not make commits to core-updates unless they repair a broken package, or maybe help repair broken packages further down towards the leaves. (And this has been true for a while now.) And maybe we should go further and refrain from repairing things in core-updates that are already broken on master, at least if they are relatively close to the root of the dependency graph. These can be done later in feature branches; I think we have the infra- structure to shoulder bigger changes outside of core-updates. On the other hand, this report is a bit worrying: [core-updates] locales not installed properly https://issues.guix.gnu.org/62934 It could potentially mean changes to glibc, which would throw us back a week. Andreas