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From: Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il>
To: Brian Cully <bjc@spork.org>
Cc: Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller.eu>,
	Felix Lechner <felix.lechner@gmail.com>,
	Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@reproducible-builds.org>,
	guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: maradns reproducibility fixes and the merits of picking a random number
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2022 14:48:19 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YqCMg+xTWXF/qU1d@3900XT> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8735ggfz3v.fsf@ditto.jhoto.spork.org>

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On Tue, Jun 07, 2022 at 08:11:54AM -0400, Brian Cully via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution. wrote:
> 
> > > The upstream website says: "People like MaraDNS because it’s ...
> > > remarkably secure." [1] Since many distributions have the same
> > > issue,
> > > upstream could perhaps offer the patch as a build switch to enable a
> > > build-time seed only when needed.
> > 
> > Sounds like the safest option. Maybe we could change the code that uses
> > that number to naise an exception or abort?
> 
> This seems like the best option to me, as well: either add a flag to
> explicitly enable embedding a constant, or remove the code entirely and
> replace it with a build failure (or runtime failure, if a build failure is
> not possible). It seems like a mis-feature to me to embed a constant seed,
> and invites silent misconfiguration which will lead to security breaches.
> 
> -bjc

I like the idea of forcing the program to segfault if it looks for
/dev/urandom and it isn't there more than distributing a randomized
prime number.

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-08 12:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-07  1:49 maradns reproducibility fixes and the merits of picking a random number Vagrant Cascadian
2022-06-07  3:24 ` Felix Lechner
2022-06-07  5:20   ` Julien Lepiller
2022-06-07 12:11     ` Brian Cully via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2022-06-08 11:48       ` Efraim Flashner [this message]
2022-06-08 14:09         ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2022-06-08 11:47     ` Efraim Flashner
2022-06-08 20:33       ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-06-23  2:05         ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-06-28  1:31           ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-06-28  9:30             ` Efraim Flashner
2022-06-28 15:39               ` Jack Hill
2022-06-28 16:04               ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2022-06-28 16:18                 ` Gábor Boskovits
2022-06-28 16:33                   ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-06-28 19:06                     ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2022-06-28 19:15                       ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2022-07-12  2:36                       ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-07-12  2:41                         ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-07-18 11:21                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-07-19 13:09                             ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2022-06-07 15:15 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-06-08 19:28 ` Arun Isaac
2022-06-08 20:25   ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-06-14 17:16     ` Philip McGrath
2022-06-08 19:43 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-06-08 20:23   ` Vagrant Cascadian

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