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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1652039408; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=3Du4cW9gJxbQjSTeybpct3yrtaas2AirE5WQWpWKYq4=; b=FBvwDschAKAfUWGCQ+WhpXa1g/SLFWd0Z5ZiM2ejKh/vPZIMV+UpzkvDYx7RB5R0vplCdY iDldqJw+ztC9PFVyqo1VgdifEsFriJuHbyvAYWOyZOnJc3QXKlW+kO3M6ergMa9jSr2CrH z9J/n3MhZF8N+WweOOdkg6AW55wwOQq0ci+jIhiBtgaJhfdq+836vR70VhCfWOYNAWshqw Z74fZgmuk3IwRA4be3A8Y1px2lfjA1Yg2lhGVRF+JK1yVo76mPokQjCIqE4WwtTKfa7zG3 oXUL7pZycfqpwjWi2/DbnjyKlIaMIuBH1bZqFioaqgxItTxz+2slm3RVtX3GXw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1652039408; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=aDcT6h4kVuR2cEXLFtnD42Rye5LifvRU8O61h8Qhbp4m+YO/covjPE6uBW+BWX3Yfc7i1j H5mJNSFdwY489cLkD4r3YS+dw2Gb1i3iGiHwh0dJCLhkhojLpnUBhABURnc/KYQqm02LR8 0iyuuNgNfoC6J0i6Lf+bWeRC2i3+wlxANpnEyxImaU+rz7lBWB0RnApvvGQABvTO8SpobP K94ENHyzf0S6RpYej9cdCH5XqYoAtRCTjZ+1jDqMCTBBp0b3hKz+Sdnz2+mevlUs8wapt2 SlzcY3OEyrP3tez/RfUHEw2t2tvHb3CYGP0E9JjFvtKoK0Mmd2iPFG5zqQf7kA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.11 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: DC8A414AB7 X-Spam-Score: -3.11 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: ONc6c91pK+EV Sébastien - On Sun, May 08, 2022 at 10:55:41PM +0900, Sébastien Lerique wrote: > In a similar line, Bunnie Huang gave an interesting talk about the > hardware trust level a few years ago, which led to the Precursor > project. Right. We (the world in general, and open-source and security communities in particular) are lucky to have bunnie out there finding creative ways to contribute. I'm really happy to see risc-v in the mes-supported list. I was at the 5th RISC-V Workshop in 2016, and heard Eric Grosse, then Google's VP of Security and Privacy, say that a future without risc-v was too scary to consider. Obligatory xkcd: Stack https://xkcd.com/2166/ - Larry