From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp11.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:203:b4db::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id uAK2FnzsymFcJgAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 28 Dec 2021 11:52:44 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp11.migadu.com with LMTPS id 6H8aFHzsymHRVQEA9RJhRA (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 28 Dec 2021 11:52:44 +0100 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1282A13EBA for ; Tue, 28 Dec 2021 11:52:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1]:45080 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2A5z-0003cz-5c for larch@yhetil.org; Tue, 28 Dec 2021 05:52:43 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37148) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2A5k-0003cY-TP for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Dec 2021 05:52:29 -0500 Received: from mout-p-101.mailbox.org ([80.241.56.151]:25978) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_CHACHA20_POLY1305:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2A5i-0002Qd-BH; Tue, 28 Dec 2021 05:52:28 -0500 Received: from smtp1.mailbox.org (smtp1.mailbox.org [IPv6:2001:67c:2050:105:465:1:1:0]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-384) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mout-p-101.mailbox.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4JNWZW26YPzQkJ5; Tue, 28 Dec 2021 11:52:19 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at heinlein-support.de DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=6xq.net; s=MBO0001; t=1640688737; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=H+b9XAMgcbT1my+Xk9cDv89FGPEINe1iy4ovziNuiwQ=; b=Z0/Mva2P5MiD+1YDrWGy8ZdIzMrhpUmGSaplNm43JdRAEfxo49Brk+OhrJgtBMe0ZLk/Ph cbirhlsJ+rTxi7gM7l0Sf0b4vE2AWWn1EIx4dkfQfa9u8phV3Jvj7vecR11WhcleRsFAcr L9XIpLvQ6dqoX9UpOB1fP3qJazSoTe5xe13MR1P7ifYtZWkO05Iohh4DZ+Sof+xQHPVC8+ ccLBoer+xY4rMYyWqiW+j9jOeZbgPPsqySd+ajBN8GaEQUU209kku1WmNjrgaAa/yztxn/ aPgdm2+AS0TWDtZ5RlEu5NNzbw6oIg2mDajPgMQLtyAg7PqkENhoFgAFbYq3MA== Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2021 11:52:13 +0100 From: Lars-Dominik Braun To: Maxim Cournoyer Subject: Re: Formalizing teams Message-ID: References: <87ee641w3e.fsf@inria.fr> <87mtkmwrre.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <87mtkmwrre.fsf@gmail.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=80.241.56.151; envelope-from=lars@6xq.net; helo=mout-p-101.mailbox.org X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Guix Devel Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1640688764; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=H+b9XAMgcbT1my+Xk9cDv89FGPEINe1iy4ovziNuiwQ=; b=eEaux2rJfr8tKYrnn47ME0x0Bs+By3jax8gv9CHd6ytg4TmwnQggx3yhoMoYbXUtJUbsQ4 cN/o6aekjzLmEH6rnMRVeKw95D42L1VpbNDbZ7zhunBWN3qyO+F7xSfj7WQgZC9KJAiABc ukkghpwIqfsyJpuISymT+3qB3W42jrWqDrgVGO01aLeNVs+D4UUxLiSR35rUcnpm9lqpLQ qIm9bc9wvM55ROEfpLkmzeB5F2bxNdml+keVlmUVVt4Pyl0vxEGA7b7S1Gqj2QCpi4f2s+ KCrXfDMjfobItCNSbFxa34fcKhch2setlmhrjT1JgAO80YvhHZBWdRjXQw0Dcg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1640688764; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=mGTIR+AZnGIuc70IuqJ6J2HBFqMYeqlebSiUxx5u5Et8LbtMvn5DX+JJJStcuxrIWyWN58 Uvv11iQXXR26YzwzZB84ZDp5J7o+A4ECPQWhjklPt25n6QrBy7/XVNBj1UX9wgLwQQN/BY FQIaEWjuunRHPCahBss+k8UBL13jQRqQLklau3WCpREb9Rx2Yg9Fft5rs8jtwF3eUsUtqQ 3h2ppcJiP8Oild7/7Fkz0nVyEi9GbFxJVHuxDF8z+5NrNPw7/CtPTVmiY6veTcgHrHZ17S lA4zFKVTkakPN4oBBD9MSy9YxgQ7D2Q6+EkLkqLdRNNB8IdwDUC+OhbMpAEW9g== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=6xq.net header.s=MBO0001 header.b="Z0/Mva2P"; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=6xq.net (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.17 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=6xq.net header.s=MBO0001 header.b="Z0/Mva2P"; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=6xq.net (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 1282A13EBA X-Spam-Score: -2.17 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: Bnu4Pc0DLjhO Hi Maxim, > I've grown to like our apparent lack of structure; we interact globally > on any topic of interest and the discussions all happen in a shared > space, which makes it easy to stay informed with everything that's going > on (do we really need more mailing lists to follow? I don't think so -- > our current volume doesn't warrant it). to me this is a disadvantage. I don’t have enough time at my hands to look at every single thread and patch in my inbox and decide whether I can/want to work on it. Thus I’d prefer if I could unsubscribe from -patches (I’m not even subscribed to -bug/-commit) and instead only look at bugs/patches/commits related to packages/components I’m interested into/I actually use. To that end having more structure would help. Teams are just one option, but we need a way to efficiently connect people with skills to review/help with those who need the review/help. This sounds similar to what Gentoo’s Bug Wranglers[1] do. I believe someone brought up to automate this by suggesting reviewers for patches based on the commit history of packages/components. [1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Bug-wranglers Cheers, Lars